New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon

[negative1]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

i don't see a disconnect/disparity, i take them all for what they are meant to be. each avenue/channel has it's own value to the fan/listener/collector but few bands have given the fans such a wealth of material to digest, most of it for free.

i think i mentioned that..

i'm not sure why you are having such a hard time with remixes other people have done for UW. i could give a shit about the remixes. i'm not an underworld fan to see how some other fool can rework their songs. those mixes are for club play. as far as what Rick, Karl and Darren have done with the music they've created live and in the studio for the last 3 years or so, i think it includes the best music to have Underworld's name on it.

Tomato have done a great job with the live visuals and artwork for the releases/book of jams. videos don't mean shit to me and haven't since i eagerly awaited Duran Duran's new video (Union of the Snake) way back in the day. i was left disappointed by that, and haven't really given a shit about that particular promotional tool since.

i picked up Boy Boy Boy cd single, Oblivion Ball and The Bells, The Bells from the post office today and couldn't be happier.

first of all, i liked the 'union of the snake' video, and the song,
it was the first 12" i ever bought...altered images artwork rocks...

the boy boy boy is ONLY good for the artwork, and the live album,
yeah thats more like a complete package......but then its not
really part of any new creative output is it? its just a recording of them
live, which they've co-opted to liveherenow...

anyways, if you don't like remixes or videos, you're telling me
you bought this (bells bells bells) just for the packaging/artwork?

later
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[negative1]

just for reference..

i have a large table in my bedroom, (sorry i don't
have a digital camera), so i cant show you..

on it...is the following:
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back wall - both beautiful burnout 12" leaning back, along with 2x12" album,
both crocodile 12"........

table (left hand side)- ion usb turntable

table (middle) - all the liveherenow releases organized by date,
spread out next to each other..along with 'the oblivion ball'

far right hand side of table - every promo underworld release
3 cd single promos of 'crocodile' , 2 track dvd promo of crocodile,
japanese crocodile cd-single, 4 different beautiful burnout promos,
boy boy boy japanese single, ring road promo cd-single,
breaking and entering soundtrack, dvd epk for everything everything,
riverrun remix promo cd, stack of about 15 adho related releases..

front of table- oblivion with bell us cd+dvd, japanese cd+dvd, underworld
live in tokyo 3xcd...

sitting on top of stack (wondering where to hide it) - bells bells bells

artwork, what is the best so far (in my opinion)
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tourbook (from oblivion with bells) beautiful artwork,
large pages, amazing picture, great text A+

all the album cover artwork - large, and beautiful to look at...

liveherenow covers - once again, cool pieces of individual art,
smaller though..

then comes the cd covers, the singles/promos...

and of course lastly 'bells, bells, bells',

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i wake up everyday looking at their artwork,

not a day goes by when i don't listen to/read/watch
something from them.........

i have an entire table, several boxes, and a wall to frame
their stuff with..

i guess this means i really don't have a basis to judge
anything from them? yeah, right...

later
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[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by negative1

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i guess this means i really don't have a basis to judge
anything from them? yeah, right...

later
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that's not at all what i'm saying. i know you've got a shit ton of UW stuff. i know you're a collector too. i also know that you've been unhappy with nearly everything UW have done for the last few years and since you've previously been someone i've felt had similar taste/interests, i'm surprised at how aggressively you've argued against the artistic direction/marketing from Underworld. we're just completely opposed w/r/t the 2005-2008 era.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by negative1

the boy boy boy is ONLY good for the artwork

i bought it for Peach Tree, which i love.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by negative1

and the live album,
yeah thats more like a complete package......but then its not
really part of any new creative output is it?

i think you would be encouraging Underworld to release live shows in beautifully packaged cases were they not actually releasing them in beautifully packaged cases! i'm not sure how you can complain about any of the LiveHereNow shows, other than the issues with LiveHereNow. we got exactly what we asked for!

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by negative1

anyways, if you don't like remixes or videos, you're telling me
you bought this (bells bells bells) just for the packaging/artwork?

later
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yes. i bought it for Parc on CD, the artwork and to have it in my collection.

[holden]

Got it and listening now. A brief review of the audio, FWiW:

1. Parc - Just lovely. Great to have in "studio" quality. 10/10

2. Crocodile - Innervisions Orchestra Mix - long, chilled and dubby. 8/10

3. Boy Boy Boy - Switch remix - a mi no me gusta esto. Too many random bits happening, and the 'boy boy boy boy" sample played at different pitches is embarrasing. Sounds like my old casio sampler where you could speak (or better, burp) into the mic and play back on the keys. What's up with the "what you want from me this time?" sample? And for good measure, add some cowbell, but not the good kind as on "Two Months Off" or "Don't Fear the Reaper" This is of the vein of remixes i can't stand, essentially the producer's tack with only a quick vocal sample from the original. Don't like the music on its own ,and with Karl's voice added, it makes me sad
4/10

4. Beautiful Burnout- Pig & Dan Remix - Typical PnD glitchy and dark remix, a la the RiverRun tracks. Full of menace,perfect for subterranean dancing 7/10

5. Beautiful Burnout - Mark Knight remix - this grew on me a lot since it came out last autumn. Different enough without being disconcerting. Especially appreciate the middle section that retains the chilling pads from the original. 8/10

6. Ring Road - AutoKratz Remix - Nice slice of electro. Not crazy about the vocal cutups, and again, only the spare lyrical sample is retained from the original, but unlike the LBL remix of this track, or the Switch remix above, at least i dig the new production. 6/10

7. Ring Road - Kris Menace remix - A slowbuilder, with a great Moroder-esque rolling bassline (shades of Fluke, one of my favorite artists). It keps changing and keeps me hooked. A few more elements of the original than some of the other remixes, but mostly concentrates on the "It's a hot day" portion of the lyrics. This should indeed "tear up the dancefloor". 9/10

8. Holding the Moth - Audiojack remix - nicely incorporates the background chords from the latter part of the original track, really kicks in with a nice bass and "keep it simple" loop at 2 minutes in. Many of the lyrics are retained. Another nice departure without being entirely new. 8/10

So, average score: 7.5/10, (8/10 without Switch's "remix").
A fine collection of various styles. I much prefer this sort of disparate collection of mixes to a single or EP with 5 versions of the same track. Or maybe i;'m biased by the pricetag, which predisposes me to enjoy this! Still, i do.

[negative1]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

i bought it for Peach Tree, which i love.

i stand corrected, however, if you had the other releases,
this wasn't anything new either?

later
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[BrotherLovesDub]

that's not true. the version of Peach Tree on the Boy Boy Boy single is different to the version on the Croc 12? and RRP. i forget where else it is but this version is slightly different.

[negative1]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

that's not at all what i'm saying. i know you've got a shit ton of UW stuff. i know you're a collector too. i also know that you've been unhappy with nearly everything UW have done for the last few years and since you've previously been someone i've felt had similar taste/interests, i'm surprised at how aggressively you've argued against the artistic direction/marketing from Underworld. we're just completely opposed w/r/t the 2005-2008 era.

honestly,
maybe i'm just tired/disappointed/going through the
cyclic thing called music burnout....

i feel that since beaucoup fish, things started going
awry..........all the way through ahdo..

and then the riverun series/concerts/releases woke me up
in what i can only describe as ecstasy..i've only just
gotten in the 'breaking and entering' soundtrack, all
the riverrun vinyls, and promos etc....

now thats exciting....and then to have owb come out,
and reverse that trend, and go back to who knows what
is all very surprising, and discouraging,(including most of the
2007-and early 2008 concerts).....especially when it seems,
via their radio shows, free releases, book of jams (etc)
[for rationale, see above posts]...are still so vibrant,
and full of promise...

i need to step back, take a deep breath, and calm down...
it's only music right?

anyways, i'm much happier now, working on several preservation
projects....and hoping for the best for the next new phase
of underworld material..

***THIS MESSAGE was brought to you medication free****

later
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