Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

2. I reiterate in challenging you to find a post where anyone is banning anyone from sharing or trading this P2P. The matter was discussed by RTSR member and it was decided that because of the commercial nature of the release, RTSR was not the proper place to be sharing it because it crossed a line into trading/sharing commercial product.

3. Should the Australian CD be ripped and "shared" on here because there are two extra tracks on it? Should the Outer Mongolian DVD Special? It's a slippery slope.

4. Pathetic little games?

2. I don't view this as a commercial release as well as many others on here. This is the first point in disagreement. This is not 'Everything Everything' we are talking about. This is impossible to purchase. Even if I were to setup a website that had flashing neon arrows pointing to a download of this set, it wouldn't affect UW's bottom line in the slightest of ways. There are other soundboard recordings out there that are traded freely.

3. No. I totally agree with you, BB. But again, if I want to hear those rare tracks I'll know how to get them. I have quite a few Japanese singles (including JAL) and have tracked down countless other rare tracks the legit way. I simply do not see Electraglide as on the same slope as a real commercial release. If it were commercial, I would have some means of purchasing it, which I do not.

4. I think what Simon is so politely saying here is that these little inside information games only tick off the ones that aren't in the know. If you know something then just tell it. Comments like, "unless I have some good news regarding the Tokyo release, which I hope is soon." just make everyone think there is something in the works. And if there is something in the works then dirts wanna know about it -- that is after all why we post in the Underworld forum, to be in the know with the rest of you.

Its no one's duty to share, that much I will always agree with.

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

maybe because he has to wait until there's been official word from the band about this? Just a guess.

I'd say there's a big possibility UW will release this set eventually trough UWlive, so let's all just exercise the great power of patience for a while and enjoy the good stuff we've been given already, although it seems for some people nothing is ever good enough. ah well...

I don't want to sound ungrateful or whatever, but its these comments that make me angry. It means you know something that I don't. And it comes across as you saying, "well i know there is something planned and you dont. YOU exercise patience while i sit comfortably with my knowledge of whats to come." Now, I've known most of you long enough to know that you don't have a mean bone in your body, but thats how it reads. There are a lot of newcomers here and they might not know how UW does things with their live site.

You can't say, "be patient" and then go pop in your copy of the Electraglide show. See what I mean?

nothing is ever good enough. ah well...

Can you honestly tell me that you don't have a copy of this show yet?

[stimpee]

I heard this show when it was broadcast on the net radio after the lemonworld set. all i know is what i have been told and this is that there is going to be some news on this. what difference this makes to you guys i dont know. now you know what i know.

tune into dirtyradio now

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by stimpee

I heard this show when it was broadcast on the net radio after the lemonworld set. all i know is what i have been told and this is that there is going to be some news on this. what difference this makes to you guys i dont know. now you know what i know.

tune into dirtyradio now

i am no longer able to listen to DirtyRadio as it is blocked at my office. i used to but cant now.

im not saying you know Stimp, im saying it SEEMS that you do. and thats why people keep asking.

[stimpee]

well, i dont know. im not in some elite club. i dont have access to the lemonworld vaults. i dont have a big red telephone that flashes when rick and karl ring. im just a moderator here to make sure the rules of this forum are obeyed, to help, and pass on information that i get.

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

I don't want to sound ungrateful or whatever, but its these comments that make me angry. It means you know something that I don't. And it comes across as you saying, "well i know there is something planned and you dont. YOU exercise patience while i sit comfortably with my knowledge of whats to come." Now, I've known most of you long enough to know that you don't have a mean bone in your body, but thats how it reads. There are a lot of newcomers here and they might not know how UW does things with their live site.

You can't say, "be patient" and then go pop in your copy of the Electraglide show. See what I mean?


Can you honestly tell me that you don't have a copy of this show yet?

please don't be angry
Sorry if my post was unclear, although I don't really see how you can read what you do in what I wrote, but it doesn't matter.
I don't have some secret info that you don't, I'm just going by what people wrote in this thread and in this case I was going by Stimpee's comment

I'm not gonna be posting anymore in this thread unless I have some good news regarding the Tokyo release, which I hope is soon

I interpreted that as that some news regarding this topic would be coming soon, but he doesn't know anything else besides that. (and he confirmed this to be true in a post just before) Which is why I thought it a bit unfair for goldfish to suggest Stimpee actually does know but isn't telling because he likes to play games, or something.
I don't have the recording, and I know as much as you do, which is that some news is coming but we won't know what it is until we hear it, and stimpee can't tell us because he won't know what it is until he hears it either.

[groovypanda]

Originally Posted by Flux

This is worse than the Xbox360 shortage.

Pretty funny how all those 360 boxes are just sitting on Japanese shelves while here in the US people are clawing each other for a little piece of the 360 pie.

The Japanese get everything: 360's, ninjas, udon, square enix, sexy japanese girls, origami, wasabe, sake, nifty gadgets, cute pokemon figurines, pocci, dragon ball z, hentai, robots, ultraman, astro boy, Osaka palace, Nissan Skylines and rare underworld releases. Those bastards.

I'd like to recieve a bootleg copy of a sexy origami japanese girl in a nissan skyline.

thank you chris

you rock

[froopy seal]

Originally Posted by Flux

The Japanese get everything: [...].

I'd like to recieve a bootleg copy of a sexy origami japanese girl in a nissan skyline.

But there's a heavy downside: kitsch. All that fancy "cute" stuff you automatically love when you're Japanese (resistance is futile, it's in the breast milk as well as natural and chemical substitutes).

Which doesn't mean I wouldn't welcome the origami girl... after all, she's got the Electraglide cd!

[polar_action]

It's lovely to know that dirty.org is like a real family.

We argue, we fight, we fall in love, we knock on the door when someoone is in the loo and your burstin'.....

I'll tell you what though....

That Underworld... they're pretty cool eh?

[goldfish]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

1. It is not a mix. It is a collection of CDs recorded by the band and their management to be sold for commercial gain at their Japanese concerts. This is not a "bootleg", sound-board or otherwise, no matter how hard you try to twist the semantics to serve your argument.

I don't care if it's a bootleg or not (if anyone's playing semantics here, it's you). 'Commercial' but unattainable is still unattainable.

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

2. I reiterate in challenging you to find a post where anyone is banning anyone from sharing or trading this P2P. The matter was discussed by RTSR member and it was decided that because of the commercial nature of the release, RTSR was not the proper place to be sharing it because it crossed a line into trading/sharing commercial product.

Again, RTSR has no relevance here. This isn't RTSR.

Obviously it's nice that you're not trying to prevent anyone from doing what they want outside of dirty, but it rather misses the point. It's discussion that's been banned.

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

3. Dirty.Org is the official Underworld forum. I maintain my position, purely out of respect for the Band, that this is not the place to be openly sharing/trading commercial product. It never has been and it never should be. That is my personal opinion. There is absolutely nothing to stop people pm'ing or emailing each other if they want to enter into discussions. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? What if the next album is produce in different versions for different markets worldwide? Should the Australian CD be ripped and "shared" on here because there are two extra tracks on it? Should the Outer Mongolian DVD Special? It's a slippery slope.

Bullshit, for a number of reasons. Firstly, this has always been a place where rare Underworld releases have been shared to people unable to get hold of them otherwise (unless you're encouraging eBay profiteering, which I'm sure you're not, are you?). Secondly, if Underworld or any band fuck around with different releases in different countries, you're damned straight that this is a place where that inequality should be levelled up. If I buy an album, I expect to get the full album, not half an album.

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

4. People can get hold of this quite easily if they look for it in the right place - you said yourself you had most of it. But people coming in here and demanding that a copy of it be linked for them to download and insulting anyone who has a copy and hasn't shared it with them, (as at least one of the posters on this thread has done), is hardly likely to endear people towards wanting to share the picking of their nose with them, much less anything else.

Again, you miss the point. If you can't or won't share, that's fine; but who are you to stop those that want to? Generally there are plenty of people willing and able to share the wealth, but are now being told that they can't do that.

I still find it bizarre that everyone should be coming over all virtuous-like, whilst dirty.org is happily distributing music illegally through dirty radio... talk about hypocrisy!

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

Pathetic little games? What IS your issue with people exactly?

Others have already covered this. If you know something, say it, if you don't, shut up. If nothing else, if there's a chance that the show will be released through underworldlive, why not just say so and so prevent some poor sod blowing £50 via eBay on the CD, thereby also injecting a hint of reality into the prices being charged. It's just common sense that everyone here should be old and ugly enough to understand. This entire thread would've been killed stone dead if someone, I don't care who, had said 'Underworld are investigating providing the live show via Underworldlive - be patient for a few weeks or two and we'll know more'.

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

Sulking for weeks in the background, then bouncing back up to take personal pops at Stimpee, Eike and I? That is pathetic, Simon.

Simon