moderators editing members posts

[gambit]

Man, I haven't stepped into this shit since it started. But this is getting way out of hand, cacophony, when you go after BB repeatedly after she's apologized. Bear in mind, I agree with you on most things you argue about in world and certainly with the recent "GWB hates women" thread and the moderator editing. But, pardon my language, you are way out of fucking line here, cacophony. You're turning into an unbearable asshole, which is unfortunate because you're intelligent and engaged in actual discussions here. I'm a writer myself, so I'm with you all the way about someone else editing your words or someone else's words, but fuck. You're beating a dead horse here. BB's apologized, dubman's seen the error of his ways. They've learned their lesson, now move along please.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by gambit

Man, I haven't stepped into this shit since it started. But this is getting way out of hand, cacophony, when you go after BB repeatedly after she's apologized. Bear in mind, I agree with you on most things you argue about in world and certainly with the recent "GWB hates women" thread and the moderator editing. But, pardon my language, you are way out of fucking line here, cacophony. You're turning into an unbearable asshole, which is unfortunate because you're intelligent and engaged in actual discussions here. I'm a writer myself, so I'm with you all the way about someone else editing your words or someone else's words, but fuck. You're beating a dead horse here. BB's apologized, dubman's seen the error of his ways. They've learned their lesson, now move along please.

i already pointed out my mistake in continuing the argument with BB after she explained her involvement. it's clear she's not the one who was in the wrong. as i said, i wish the effort to rectify the problem had included a moderator note but that's pretty small potatoes in light of things.

and just to make my point further, i don't mind if you express your opinion that i'm turning into an unbearable asshole. it would bother me just as badly if someone came in and edited your post to remove the ad hominem remark, even though it's directed towards me.

and i don't agree that dubman has seen the errors of his ways. i think it's an issue that i take with greater seriousness than he does. that's fine, i made light of locking the thread. but it's one thing to make light of the issue when you're not the one wielding the power. i can laugh at locking threads all day long. but i can't actually lock a thread.


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Originally Posted by dubman

well i think the concern is legitimate, but since the only mods who bother here are BB and myself, it could have been addressed this time though PM, where i could backpedal some more and admit that, yes, conceptually its a crappy thing to do. and as much as it wasnt insignificant but a board-wide joke i thought everyone would get, i can see the yellow card a-comin for it.
but it was a thread, and a shouty one full of flouncing and super-drama, so it made me also think that realistically, none of this crap is warranted, so i got glib. it's on you people at some point for whats ridiculous on this board.

i replied before seeing this post. now i think you've seen the error of your ways.

[Professor]

give the girl the power. that's my vote

[dubman]

Originally Posted by cacophony

i replied before seeing this post. now i think you've seen the error of your ways.

gimme cookie.

ok ok.
but this isnt a before-and-after thing. the position hasnt changed, i was just saying how you want to present it chnages how i'm going to react to it, which isnt unreasonable. there's a difference between a PM and threatening to leave the board and calling for 'resignation'.
as professor hinted at, edits happen to posts all the time by moderators fiddling around. they're mostly good natured. you should have seen the escalating sig-altering dorkery between myself and BLD. i've had my profile and sig changed by yannick and tom. i've had tom edit thread titles basically calling me a faggot. the latter hit a minor nerve but it was ultimately just fun n games and doesnt mean that peoples writerly words are being misrepresented. what basically happened here was "woe be unto the one that treats the world board with this flippant levity."
it happens in all the other boards and didnt see how the world board was supposed to be exempt from these same "shenanigans" because it's oh-so-much-more serious
which its why it's rather hard to apply words like "responsibility" to modship here. ok, youve got different rules, like any politics forum does in a general messageboard. and applying what happens to every other board here doesnt work for you guys. fine. i've said before i'll let janie handle the editing, locking, and otherwise writerly perversions you think dangle precariously on world tyranny.
but this is still overblown and at this point more drama has been made than what i can be responsible for.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by dubman

as professor hinted at, edits happen to posts all the time by moderators fiddling around. they're mostly good natured. you should have seen the escalating sig-altering dorkery between myself and BLD. i've had my profile and sig changed by yannick and tom. i've had tom edit thread titles basically calling me a faggot. the latter hit a minor nerve but it was ultimately just fun n games and doesnt mean that peoples writerly words are being misrepresented.

that's great if you guys are fine with that. i'm not. i post in 2 forums: world and underworld. on the very very very rare occasion i might venture out but we're talking probably fewer than 10 posts outside of world and underworld in all of the years i've been a member here.

it's a matter of forum characteristics. i used to run a forum on my own server years ago, and it was a comparatively small group of close friends just yucking it up for kicks. i made everyone a moderator specifically because editing each others' posts was a game we played.

it's all about context. it's not black and white, cut and dried.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by gambit

...You're turning into an unbearable asshole,...

HEY! Wait minute, that's MY designation!

You've gone too far gambit. And if I had my smiley thingys I'd put on the the happy ones here.

*******

Did someone say cyber-facism somewhere back there?

And none of this "It's for your own good, you'll be more careful with your choice of words" BS!!!!

*******

ooops, just took Sarcasmo's advice and re-read the crazy thread (hey, that rhymes. I GONNA BE A RAP STAR!!!)
You're not really behind the disappearing smiley thing? OMG, it's the same aliens that are fucking with the world's missiles!)
I think I just may have extended my restriction and probably a lowering of allowance.

[dubman]

well i think the concern is legitimate, but since the only mods who bother here are BB and myself, it could have been addressed this time though PM, where i could backpedal some more and admit that, yes, conceptually its a crappy thing to do. and as much as it wasnt insignificant but a board-wide joke i thought everyone would get, i can see the yellow card a-comin for it.
but it was a thread, and a shouty one full of flouncing and super-drama, so it made me also think that realistically, none of this crap is warranted, so i got glib. it's on you people at some point for whats ridiculous on this board.

[Professor]

all points are good, everybody forgives everyone and we all win.

really. agree that censorship is bad, this forum is sometimes 'serious' depending on one's state of mind at the time, but in general, it IS just a forum, not life....

i've gotten my panties in a wad on occasion, and i've laughed at people on occasion who have gotten theirs in a wad. it all goes around.

i've had my posts changed for a joke... sometimes it's funny, sometimes not... most times it is. (winks at stimpee and yan)

my point: we all have too much time on our hands

[dubman]

it's all "good to know" to "keep in mind"
sean, i'd make more of an effort if i was taking you seriously.

[dubman]

dammit, i almost made that joke but you cant joke about these things it's just inappropriate dammit