Another one o' them smoking ban threads....

[stimpee]

3 weeks until the smoking ban here in NL. cant wait!

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by stimpee

3 weeks until the smoking ban here in NL. cant wait!

how does that work for the *ahem* coffee shops?

[Rog]

Originally Posted by Sarcasmo

Good Lord. Listen, you putz, if you're going to put me on the defensive, you're going to have to do better than this. I've been around since '99, when Andy Redbeard, Sven, and ergo were still around, and they would have eaten you alive. What you have to understand is that this is a place where your opinions are going to be challenged, especially when they seem to have emanated from a "challenged" mindset. Breaking down into petty insults about what I've done with my life isn't the way to go. In fact, it's just going to set more people against you. I can see why you're interested in dealing with microorganisms, seeing as that's just about the only level of life that can tolerate you for any length of time, but I'd check the slides for retarded growth just in case.

And I AM demanding a solution to our problem now, and I don't particularly care if it guts the wallet of a prick like yourself. Anyone who places money above human life is a turd, and they deserve whatever karmic vengeance they have coming. I've lived in the real world, and I've actually worked in a hospital as an EMT for 3 years prior to joining the service, as opposed to volunteering once a week so that I can gloat over my health and leer at nursing students. One of the facts that I've been attempting to drill into your head is the fact that, under the current system, we're already paying for stupid people, and because of the Hippocratic Oath, that's not something that's likely to change. You might be able to deny insurance to an idiot, but you can't deny care, seeing as medical attention is something that this country decided was a human right. So the money has to come from somewhere, right?

Now, I'm glad that you're setting goals for humanity, but it's just that humanity has this silly way of resisting change, and your powers of persuasion, as evidenced by this ongoing exercise in futility, rank somewhere between that of a sloth and that guy who tucked his dick between his legs in "Silence of the Lambs." Not to mention the fact that your supposed plan to help humankind evolve to solve the health care crisis is so far removed from the realm of possibility and practicality as to be totally wacko. Who takes care of who? How do you break it down? How do you deal with population densities, seeing as people living in 40 story filing cabinets have quite a few more people to take care of than the equivalent land area in Bangor, Wisconsin. How do you deal with the socioeconomic fact that citizens living in Cabrini Green or the Robert Taylor Projects in Chicago are just a little worse off than those living in the Hamptons. What you've failed to realize is that we "get" what your whole outline is, we just haven't gotten a single straight answer when we posit specific examples to you. We get a lot of runaround and language insulting our intelligence, which, somehow, does not persuade us.

I can't wait for your "essay" later on. Unfortunately, due to "poor decisions," I will not be able to read it for about 4 days or so (convoy back to al Taqqadum) so I will wait with baited breath until then. Unfortunately, I had planned on returning to school after my time in the service was up (one of the side effects of my "poor decision" was a free education) but if our institutions of higher learning are turning people like you out, I might just be a bartender.

I bow down before you sir!

as a studier of microorganisms albeit at a slightly higher level than biochem/microbiology major, i understand where you're coming from

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

i just remember goldfish. man that guy wouldn't budge an inch on michael moore's objectivity.

yeah hey, where'd that dude go?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by Sean

That misquote of Sarcasmo kind of crosses a line for me there, sport.

Yup.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

how does that work for the *ahem* coffee shops?

only applies to tobacco. you can smoke marijuana still.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by stimpee

only applies to tobacco. you can smoke marijuana still.

don't expect that to last as more research on the health effects of pot is studied.

New research from Canada shows that some toxins may be more abundant in marijuana cigarettes than tobacco cigarettes.

The researchers burned 30 marijuana cigarettes and 30 tobacco cigarettes on a machine in their lab, measuring levels of chemicals in the smoke.

Ammonia levels were up to 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. Levels of hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen-related chemicals were three to five times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke.

blame canada!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by cacophony

don't expect that to last as more research on the health effects of pot is studied.



blame canada!

Generally though, don't people who smoke pot tend to smoke less of it than a cigarette smoker would smoke cigarettes? So I'd say it's healthy!

[IsiliRunite]

but you hold in the smoke a lot longer using certain methods.

I am tired of people taking the fact that the leaf is just a carrier for cannabinoids that is unhealthy to smoke. When you put being 'high' into context, the actual chemicals that get you high in pure form are quite healthy... There are side effects, but when you synthesize the active canibinoids and give a dose of those together in moderation, the negative side-health effects are compareable to anything you may take for allergies or arthritis.

I eat the stuff, personally. Still working on that essay...

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by IsiliRunite

I eat the stuff, personally. Still working on that essay...

I can't help but wonder how this fits into your health model. Awaiting.