U.S. Presidential Election 2008

[Sean]

Originally Posted by gambit

From Montana to the world, I have one thing to say:

You're welcome.

Obama is presumptive nominee.

Yes, thank you.

I'm still amazed that Hillary continued her claim that she's more electable and has more popular votes, even after Obama clinched the nomination. I mean, I can believe she said it, but I just find it to be stunning that she's willing to try to hobble the Democratic party for her own personal satisfaction. It's like watching the biggest, slowest car wreck in history happen right before our eyes.

Honestly, I have no doubt that Obama can beat McCain - Hillary's the one I'm scared of. Will she help, or hinder?

[cured]

Obama is going to win pretty handily in November, I think. He will trounce McCain in the debates. Let's hope he doesn't go with a Dan Quayle.

[IsiliRunite]

Originally Posted by cured

Obama is going to win pretty handily in November, I think. He will trounce McCain in the debates. Let's hope he doesn't go with a Dan Quayle.

It's really a battle of white guilt (supportive prejudice) vs. bigotry (negative prejudice).

I don't believe it will come down to issues or principles, just which wins out in the "gut feelings" of the majority (white) voters. Subtle things that can't be quantified... like Nixon's running make-up during the debates of his first campaign.

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by IsiliRunite

It's really a battle of white guilt (supportive prejudice) vs. bigotry (negative prejudice).

so you think along the same lines as geraldine ferraro? That Obama's campaign enjoys a dominating boost from white guilt?

K question. why are so many educated and young people supporting obama, then? too young to know what jim crow even feels like and too smart to want to find out?

not having it, sorry.

[cured]

New youtube making the rounds...



(McCain the flip-flopper!)

[Troy McClure]

Originally Posted by cured

New youtube making the rounds...



(McCain the flip-flopper!)

There is also this one that move.org is sponsoring:
http://www.bush-mccainchallenge.com/?rc=homepage

Senator Clinton's speech seemed odd. I respect her decision to say what she said tonight, but she is fooling herself and her supporters.

-Jason

[cured]

I've heard (and I agree) that she doesn't want to be the VP because she wants Obama to lose in November and to run again in 2012. Her speech tonight would indicate that.

[Troy McClure]

Originally Posted by cured

I've heard (and I agree) that she doesn't want to be the VP because she wants Obama to lose in November and to run again in 2012. Her speech tonight would indicate that.

Some people are of the opinion that the Clintons did this same game to Al Gore and John Kerry.

For giggles, I been reading the blog comments on Senator Clinton's website tonight. Yikes.

Jason

[IsiliRunite]

Educated people are support Obama because what is new, liberalism in most common usage, usually comes straight from colleges and universities. Not as though it is right or wrong, but that is usually the case.

Young people vote for Obama because they get the sense that he is not old-fashioned, he understands young people concerns because he is not 80 years old, and because Obama has more style than any candidate in a long time..

I'm not explaining his support by mentioning those prejudices, I am saying that a big factor in his ability to win the election depends on the outcome of white voters sub-consciously or consciously selecting one of those two prejudices more frequently than the other.

I don't really identify myself with anything Geraldine Ferraro says...

[Deckard]

I predict the unpatriotic cheese-eating surrender monkey slur may play a large part in why people choose against Obama this year - certainly once Republican Nightmare Productions® gets into full swing. Tbh I reckon this will be a much bigger factor than racism, assuming that's what you meant by "bigotry (negative prejudice)".

I'd say the Reverend Wright hoohaah ("God Damn America!!") fits more into that category than it does racism, though obviously racism - conscious or unconscious - will make it that much more potent.

His stance on talking to dictators and his relative lack of experience will be bigger issues, I think. The sense that he'll make a dangerously ineffective Commander-in-Chief (ridiculous as that phrase is) - think back to Bush v Kerry, and Bush's insistence that "that's just not what a Commander-in-chief does" and his constant focus on "being certain".

Another parallel with that election will be Obama's relatively professorial manner compared with salt-of-the-earth folksy McCain (even though Obama is streets ahead of Kerry in terms of charisma, there will still be that impression by some that he's out of touch with the common person) - and these strike me as the main reasons for people choosing McCain over Obama.