Oblivion Ball Tokyo Live Streaming

[negative1]

Originally Posted by Ufotofu

Asking them to come up with brilliant, on-the-fly, improvised sets for dozens of shows borders on the absurd.

and how were they able to do this before?

anyways, after reading through all the comments.
1) no, i don't think its wrong to 'criticize' the fact the setlist
is similar
2) yes, we're grateful that we even get the chance to listen
and view the concerts online
3) yes, we don't have to pay for a quality version of this,
even though in the past concerts were posted for free
4) no, i don't think this will stop them from more live broadcasts,
or changing up their setlist...

thanx underworld for the shows,
but no thanx for the lack of innovation..

that said, i do think there were a few more interesting
things in the tokyo show, but overall it still doesn't measure
up to their previous shows...

hasn't someone come up with their 'ultimate boot' show yet?
i'm waiting for all my discs to come in before making one..

later
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[Jamiel]

Hi All

I think this discussion reflects that with the internet, and also the gernerousity of the band making shows available to download or buy, that we can go online and compare every gig within days, even seconds of it finishing.

When I first started seeing gigs 25 years ago (god I am feeling old now) I had no idea what a band would play on a tour from night to night, except perhaps if someone in the queue mentioned that a friend had rung them to say they had played '?????' two nights ago.

I saw the second band I ever saw a month ago (Rush) and I know from bootlegs and the web that they play exactly the same set every night, so I stayed away from any Rush forums or bootleg lists. The show blew me away especially as the setlist included some real surprises.

I loved the Underworld show I saw a few weeks ago too, it didn't have an awful lot of surprises, but was still wonderful. I think, as some others have said, that with the new album out, this tour is a summing up the bands achievements to date. The tours of a couple of years ago represented an experimental period for the band and so the setlist reflected that.

I don't think this tour is a template for all future tours, but just a reflection of where the band is at this time.

I am happy to see both types of show, and very thankful that so much of it is available to own on CD or download.

Jamie

[potatobroth]

oh there is little doubt that the internet delivers ths info to us in record time, but I've been listening to UW boots since 1996(7?) and there was this time where each boot was very different than the last.

This is NOT me complaining. I've purchased all the LiveHereNow discs and love them to death and am flying to London (for the second time in 5 months) to see them live (hopefully this time so clearly I still love hearing them.

But there is something legit to say about the shows that had Air Towel, Cherry Pie, Twist, Born Slippy Original, Telematic, Dark and Long, Confusion the Waitress, Bruce Lee, Cups, Juanita, Banstyle... all of which I've seen live and sometimes on the same tour!

I again, suspect that with each new album, these random tracks need to be left out, but they are still fantastic tracks that bring the house down when played live and its a shame that they aren't seeing the light of day. This is why (as feasible as it may or may not be) I was suggesting the 2-day show. Buy tix for two shows with no repeats. I'm sure that is a LOT harder than I'm making it seem.

[mmm skyscraper]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

But there is something legit to say about the shows that had Air Towel, Cherry Pie, Twist, Born Slippy Original, Telematic, Dark and Long, Confusion the Waitress, Bruce Lee, Cups, Juanita, Banstyle... all of which I've seen live and sometimes on the same tour!

They played Twist a lot during the AHDO tour, but you never hear it now. I'm sure Glam Bucket and Boy Boy boy will suffer the same fate.

[dubman]

damn testudo that was ridiculous.
they were fine with radio and tv broadcasts (which janie is selling short, yet again. i seem to recall that a fantastic fan comp of live performances were done out of these tin can recordings) until recently and absolutely did not mind when rtsr started quite openly trading them around. they still don't. it's just that these live shows are planned to be part of their discography and as such can't be traded or given away for free. the shows are hot off the board but there is some mixing going on, as we've had soundboard and recorded gigs from the last incarnation of UWlive and the sound isnt up to snuff. you want to talk about tin can, the one from fuji sounds bloodless unless you crank it to 11. these new recordings are, like it or not, live albums. they're not charging you for a bootleg, they're just doing what we've always dreamed of.
in terms of other content they're not exactly coming up short on that today either. we've had the lemonworld takes on classic tracks then, and today we're being let in on the progress and evolution of new songs.
that brainwashing comment was... classy
anyway

sets from 94-96 are really heavy on the jam and improv. stuff like that will never ever happen again, but i think it's fair to compare the ahdo era stuff, where the structure started getting more concrete but they still made each show feel different and definitely more loose on standalone gigs, versus todays run and ask 'what happened?'.

on the other hand, thinking about this more, i think all that business may have finally come on because not only was i not digging the 9-angle view, which allowed us to be everywhere and nowhere in there, but it was *also* a very familiar setlist. i couldnt get into it nearly as much as i was into the london ones... i had tabs open and was surfing elsewhere as the gig was playing. when i realized that i got kind of depressed. what the hell happened that i just stopped paying attention to my favorite band? i pointed to a whole lot of possibilities as to why, and i think they're still valid, but that's actually what brought it on, not a sense of being ultimately "fed up" as i really love (truly) that they keep doing all this for us.

Originally Posted by johnnymetropolis

Personally, I've also had moments of frustration with the setlist question, but then I hear something like Roundhouse 2, which featured a rather typical setlist, yet was one of the absolute best Underworld performances I've ever heard on my stereo or in person, and I've seen them 6 or 7 times by now and twice on this current tour. The truth seems to be found not in setlists, but in that wholly intangible, performance "thing" that changes from show to show to show -- and that's rather the whole point of the band, isn't it?

yeah, what is it about roundhouse 2 anyway? it's almost as "guilty" as the rest of them but it's the only one to really blow me away. i usually think it's just how relentless and fast the second half is, and the minor moaner switch-up in position, but it's really special to a lot of people, and i think the intangible performance "thing" is a good way of putting it

[dubman]

it's not whining. get it through yr fucking heads.

[m.g.]

I have to say that one of the most energetic thing I had ever heard live was... Kittens @ the Roundhouse, this 18th November... and I've seen them quite a fair amount of times (including Den Atelier, Cocoon & the "other" 3h+ gigs in Vilnius, Riga & Tallin...)

[ndrwrld]

Originally Posted by m.g.

I have to say that one of the most energetic thing I had ever heard live was... Kittens @ the Roundhouse,

YOU ARE KILLING ME.

[galama]

Originally Posted by ndrwrld

YOU ARE KILLING ME.

You'll get your justice man. Sorry to see you bummed like this. But i can't help snickering.

In a recent interview Karl mentioned a show that would focus on their more ambient stuff with Nina Nastasia.

Amen to that. I'd love to see them at a rather limited show, playing in front a smaller crowd, where they would do tracks they wouldn't usually play at a live event.
In fact one of my wildest dreams is Underworld releasing an "unplugged" album that would feature acoustic versions of some of their "tender" tunes and than backing that release with a few shows.

[ndrwrld]

i thought about the very same thing about a year ago...Underworld, Unplugged.
that woud be a treat.
i try not to be too bummed about Oct 19.