Crocodile preview... listen to Pete Tong now...

[mmm skyscraper]

Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

Very Enoesque.

Some of the effects remind me of "Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)" from Remain in Light by The Talking Heads.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

I have to give that a listen.

I still hear Eno by a long shot.

Oh, I get it, you are being manipulated and don't even know it. When the realization comes around, keep in mind you are not alone.

[the mongoose]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

Food A Ready and Back in the Fears are part of the Riverrun series so I don't see how those tracks would ever have been contenders to be on the album.

Biro the Leggy (B. Burnout) came before RiverRun as well but it's reworked to be on the album. Quality songs like 8 ball and Back in the Fears seem to usually get the backburner to the Ibiza "famous djs will play this!!!!" stuff (2 month off, crocodile) when it comes time to pick album tracks and most importantly singles.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

I think that the rest of the album will no doubt have songs that are in the same vein as the trippy RiverRun stuff and maybe after hearing those, I'll go, "now I see why these were picked over Fears, etc" but right now I'm thinking....
"why didn't they just rework Fears into an eight minute epic instead of making a direct to video sequel to Two Months Off's shaker drums."

btw....I hated all four albums when I first heard them. Ha.

[Jason Roth]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

Crocodile sounds decidedly more dancey than any of that stuff.

good - that's the point

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Biro the Leggy (B. Burnout) came before RiverRun as well but it's reworked to be on the album.

Biro was never released as such, unlike the Riverrun tracks which were proper releases (albeit in mp3 only)

Quality songs like 8 ball and Back in the Fears seem to usually get the backburner to the Ibiza "famous djs will play this!!!!" stuff (2 month off, crocodile) when it comes time to pick album tracks and most importantly singles.

Well, what's the point of releasing a single if not for DJ's to play it? It seems obvious that the most DJ-friendly tracks would be picked to be singles. Don't get me wrong though, I love 8-Ball and Back in the Fears is one of my favourite Riverrun tracks, and would definitely not have misstood on a proper Underworld album. It's just not single material.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

well you're entitled to that opinion of course, but I respectfully disagree.
There's no way for you to tell how much time they spent on something, but obviously Crocodile has been worked on for a long time as well, since we heard it first in october last year.

I think that the rest of the album will no doubt have songs that are in the same vein as the trippy RiverRun stuff and maybe after hearing those, I'll go, "now I see why these were picked over Fears, etc" but right now I'm thinking....
"why didn't they just rework Fears into an eight minute epic instead of making a direct to video sequel to Two Months Off's shaker drums."

Well, uw's albums have always been a mix between dancefloor singles and more ambient and experimental work so I'd say it's a very safe bet that it's gonna be like that again.
Still can't see why you would want another version of Back in the Fears on the album though...

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

... but obviously Crocodile has been worked on for a long time as well, since we heard it first in october last year.

Hello! Mrs Pedant here. We actually first heard this track as the opening to the Zurich gig in 2005.

So, yes, it has been in the works for a long time.

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

Hello! Mrs Pedant here. We actually first heard this track as the opening to the Zurich gig in 2005.

So, yes, it has been in the works for a long time.

ha, didn't even know that

[grady]

I wonder how long before the verison from the Zurich show will be added to the archive at underworldlive now that the song is somewhat official out there.

I hope soon, or at least with the next update. It will be nice to eventually replace that audience recording I have.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

i think peter gabriel, when he was introducing 'sky blue' on his most recent concert DVD, he was talking about some songs just seem to fall into your lap and they seem like the best thing you've ever written, and then other songs, you'll get a whim one day and record a little bit, and you end up tweaking it for years, and then it's finally finished. i would guess that's the story behind 'crocodile' and 'beautiful burnout'. the first version i heard of biro the leggy was very rough, not even B side material, although i could hear the idea there.
this album version will probably be completely different from what we originally heard 5 years ago- and it will be loads better. i have confidence in what they've put on the album and what they've left off. i know this new album will be great and we'll all appreciate it more once it comes out.

[the real stuff]

I listened 3 times last night, took a nice (LONG) sleep, and listened again. I'm absolutely in love with the beat now -- the beginning is catchy, groovy.

I'm still getting used to the vocals, which will probably sound better uncompressed on a CD. Underworld is not meant to be heard at this quality! So much fine detail is completely inaudible in this low-bitrate version.

This sounds different from previous Underworld sounds, which is exciting. Their albums are all distinct and I'm confident Oblivion will be, too.

so excited