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Re: Dutch on verge of getting most right wing government in the EU, in dutch history
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this clip shows what a UK muslim wants to happen in the UK. What do you think about what he says?
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Re: Dutch on verge of getting most right wing government in the EU, in dutch history
This was on TV tonight: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Dangerous_Man/
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Re: Dutch on verge of getting most right wing government in the EU, in dutch history
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What you wrote is as misleading as quoting Pat Robertson and then saying "this clip shows what an American man wants to happen in the US." Yes technically it does - but it's disgustingly specious. Hey look, here's an article that shows what a UK muslim thinks about what your extremist UK muslim wants to happen in the UK... Please don't listen to Anjem Choudary How many Muslims do you actually know? Quote:
Choudary is far from representative of UK Muslims. Choudary probably isn't even representative of Egyptian Muslims or Turkish Muslims or Indonesian Muslims or Jordanian Muslims or even (gasp) French Muslims or Dutch Muslims. So why quote him? I don't for a second deny the problem of Islamic extremism. But why are you always conflating Muslims with extremist Muslims? You really are terrible for getting sucked into the propaganda of hate and division - propaganda that (from both sides) relies for its effectiveness on people with a weakness for succumbing to tribal prejudices like this. Anjem Choudary insists on a clash of civilizations. The English Defence League insist on a clash of civilizations. Coincidence? The rest of us - the majority of decent Muslims and non-Muslims who are living alongside each other quite happily with liberalism, secularism and democracy - just wish extremist Muslims like Choudary and extremist anti-Muslim groups like the EDL would go get an island together and have their gddamned clash of civilizations til their hearts' content, leaving the rest of us in peace. Seriously, we can get along just fine. I wish the simple-minded tribal-headed idiots on BOTH sides would just bugger off. Last edited by Deckard; 02-14-2011 at 04:51 PM. |
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im unable to watch it...bloody hell
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very funny to see Fareeds reaction to him...lol "speaking to you is like speaking to a pure marxist" Nice one Fareeed. Of course I cant tell you how many muslims follow his views, but there are enough to make it a probelm. How many did it take for 7/7? A dozen radicals caused all those deaths. SO it does not take many followers of his views to cause a problem. I also cat tell you how many people are followers of EDL. I had never heard of the English Defense league until you mentioned them. But what I can say is that the EDL is just a reaction to the UK government allowing the English culture to get pushed aside. I believe the EDL, or something like it, will only grow the more that Governments allow more and more immigrants in to their countries. Let me ask you a question: In your opinion, what is the reason for allowing immigration into countries? Does your country need more workers, or should the government just keep allowing people in because they are nice and its the nice thing to do? Is there a point where native born people have the right to say "thats enough?"
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In summary: to complain about immigration is racist, there is no problem of Islamic extremism, and democracy, liberalism and secularism can be disposed of along with the week's recycling. Now, if you'll just process this post for me, passing it through that unique brain filter of yours, hopefully... |
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I've discovered a frightening group of folks here in the United States (and probably abroad as well, but I'm only referring to the Americans here) that absolutely refuse to hear any argument, no matter how well-reasoned and supported by facts, that acknowledges the glaring inappropriateness of painting all Muslims with the same brush. They simply won't accept that it's attitudes like theirs that have led to the recent rash of violence against American Muslims, vandalism against Islamic buildings in America, the wildly off base furor over the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque", and even historical events like Japanese internment camps during WWII. It's one of the more shameful trends I've ever been witness to here in the States.
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should be able to with a UK proxy. If not, its on UK torrent site The Box.bz http://thebox.bz/details.php?id=147875
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