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Old 06-27-2010, 01:39 PM
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Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
Re: England v Germany

Who needs a replay? It's clearly not a goal.

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Old 06-27-2010, 01:54 PM
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(yet in the grand scheme of things, haven't these incidents changed nothing? same teams still lost, same teams won their groups...)
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:02 PM
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(yet in the grand scheme of things, haven't these incidents changed nothing? same teams still lost, same teams won their groups...)
good point, clearly replay is not needed
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:37 PM
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Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
thats four or five AWFUL calls regarding goals. considering the hardest thing to do in this damn tournament/match is score a goal, having them disallowed (or allowed wrongly) is a MASSIVE problem.

consider this: the USA scored 5 goals in their four games at the World Cup. They also scored 2 more that were disallowed. Thats an increase of 40%. As it turned out, those goals didn't matter, but they sure as shit mattered for Mexico, England, etc.

I was watching the ARG v MEX game live. When that goal went in, my eyes naturally drifted to the side judge, who was running his ass off to get down to the goal box area of the pitch. He wasn't even close and there was no physical way he was in ANY position to adjudges Tevez on or offsides. It was just impossible. Why does Mexico have to suffer that? Even worse, while the stadium replay is running the goal over and over, the referee asks his sidejudge what his call was. I can only imagine what he said was, "i didnt see him as offsides." because he was about 10 or 12 yards away from the play. Prediction: "We think the officiating of the game was fine." They can fuck themselves. (oh, and I'm 100% gunning for ARG - but not at the expense of just shit calls.)

FIFA is failing. The (at least the ones the US hear) announcers were ripping the officiating. The media is shredding the officiating. Teams are dismissing the officiating. Players are lambasting the officiating. FIFA just turns away.

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Old 06-27-2010, 05:42 PM
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Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
So momentum and team psychology mean nothing?
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:22 AM
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not when you're being outclassed, no.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:02 AM
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not when you're being outclassed, no.
And the team that is outclassed NEVER wins the match, right?

Such a bullshit comment.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:29 AM
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Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
Who knows. Momentum counts for something. psychological. but when your defence leaks goals youre gonna lose. game changing events have a big mental effect on the teams though but its hard to quantify and its all a case of "what ifs". You can say that things would have been different, and that the result might have been different, but maybe not. Germany were the better team. Argentina were the better team. The good news is that these two lucky teams now play each other and one of them has to run out of luck.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:17 AM
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I agree things would have been different. I can't imagine that these players were psychologically unaffected by the missed goal. I know for certain the Mexican players were for the offside one. I watched that one with my Mexican girlfriend, who claimed that Mexico could have won that game, but the country as a whole has such a "losers mentality" that once they get behind they are unable to come back. If the first Argentina goal was disallowed (as it should have been) I doubt the Mexican team would have allowed the second as easily, and it could have been 1-1 going into overtime.

Honestly the lack of any type of replay is ridiculous - thank god both teams would have won without the extra goal, because it's absurd just how big of a story the officiating is. The (american) football team I played for in high school had better officiating than this. Think about this from the players' minds - you get robbed of a goal (or unfairly scored on) because of a simple mistake, during the biggest sporting event in the world, one that only occurs every FOUR years (why?!), meaning you will only get probably FOUR chances in your life to ever play in it, and that's if you're lucky! The psychological implications are staggering.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:35 AM
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Who knows. Momentum counts for something. psychological. but when your defence leaks goals youre gonna lose. game changing events have a big mental effect on the teams though but its hard to quantify and its all a case of "what ifs". You can say that things would have been different, and that the result might have been different, but maybe not. Germany were the better team. Argentina were the better team. The good news is that these two lucky teams now play each other and one of them has to run out of luck.
jesus; if these 2 teams are 'lucky' i'd love to see a 'good' one
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