United 93

[Future Proof]

So... am I the only one that absolutely will not be going to see this?

You know that directors and screen writers around the world were huddled around the TV on 9/11, licking their chops and rubbing their hands (and other things) together, salivating over all of the money that they could make.

I think I'm going to d/l it via a torrent just to make a point. Will anybody be seeing this and as a proposal for dialog, am I the only one here disgusted over how little tact Hollywood's shown in realeasing this so soon after it happened? I mean, I know it's 5 years but the world wasn't reverberating from Pearl Harbor when Tora! Tora! Tora! or Pearl Harbor came out, not to nearly the extent that the world's still recoiling now from 9/11.

[Malt Refund]

Yup I agree with ya, it's pretty disgusting.. I'm also hoping for a worldwide boycott. It's not even that it's too soon, I'd probably have no compulsion to put myself thru that stuff even 10 years from now. But who knows if the movie making business will even be around in 10 years.. gotta cash in now!

[stimpee]

When I see 9/11 stuff on TV I immediately switch off/over. I've seen and heard all I want to about it to last a lifetime and I'm certainly not interested in some Hollywood exec's version.

[Sean]

I can only imagine the brainstorming meetings they must have had to work out what the earliest "tasteful" release date might be.

This reminds me of something I saw happen at LAX a few years back. I was sitting at my gate, waiting to board my flight, when a middle aged lady slipped and fell as she walked by. People right near her immediately rushed over to lend a hand, except for one guy in particular. He rushed over from further away than anyone else only to hand her his business card before she was even back on her feet. Gotta love lawyers (sorry BB ). I guess some people will always just see other's misfortune as an opportunity to make a buck.

[mmm skyscraper]

someone should put together some clips from Man U's 93 season and upload that to the torrent sites

Was Michael Moore tactless for F 9/11?

[Jason Roth]

Not going either.

edit - Micheal Moore's F911 was completely different. He used actual footage, narrated, and drew conclusions. Even if you disagree with him, it's far better than making up what happened, which is the only way U93 could have been written.

[mmm skyscraper]

Originally Posted by Jason Roth

edit - Micheal Moore's F911 was completely different. He used actual footage, narrated, and drew conclusions. Even if you disagree with him, it's far better than making up what happened, which is the only way U93 could have been written.

good point.

Anyone know the name of the Oliver Stone movie?

[adam]

I see nothing wrong with this. He got unanimous approval from the families involved. I understand your fear of it being exploitive, but, none of us having seen it, I don't think it's fair to make that accusation/assumption. There is nothing wrong with the subject matter itself. Everything depends on how it's handled, and we don't know that. From the interview with the director that I read, I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by mmm skyscraper

someone should put together some clips from Man U's 93 season and upload that to the torrent sites

I don't see why people should have to suffer that. Much more enjoyable to make a compilation of Sheffield United's 93/94 relegation season I enjoyed it anyway!

[grady]

I'd been waiting for a while to jump in on this one but I'm feeling a bit more energy today and this film among the other 911 films have been doing two things for me.

1. Making me Pissed off

and

2. Curious

One. From the get go of 911, it was only a matter of time before this started happening. My main problem and why films like Mr. Greengrasses' and Mr. Stone's piss me off is that it seems to perpetuate and cement the uncertainty of that day and what happen into a mythological truth of sorts that people will then believe as actual truth.

I'm not a conspiracy nut, but there is just too many damn questions that I have, many more left unanswered or ignored by the government and the american public. With the media now being spoonfed to people I can imagine people buying these stories as fact and taking it just as fact on face value.

When I saw the trailer for this film United93, about a month ago on Inside Man, my antagnoistic friend leaned over to me and whispered into my ear, "Just be quiet, I don't want to hear it." Fine, I'm not going to bitch and moan about this and that in the theater, but seeing the trailer on the big screen projected, had a different effect on me.

Kind of a sick morbid curiosity to see what the director Paul Greengrass is up to and felt so compelled to make this film.

Two. As I read a few reports of advance screenings, one by a journalist whose writing and opinion I admire and enjoy, my curiosity grew to see what the film was. The filmmaker side of me that wants to know and feel the details and the hows and whys of decision made in the production kicked in.

Part of this spurred by this piece. Now it didn't entirely sway me over from seeing it right away, but brought about a few different perspectives to light that I hadn't really been considering or seeing from my perspective.

At the moment I'm still undecided on when I will see it, but I know it's only a matter of time before the curiosity will get the most of me.

Finally one last point of interest worth reading in regards to the film about the two NYC Fire Fighters being directed by Oliver Stone. This piece is from 10.06.01. It's a report on a discussion at the NY Film Festival with of all people Oliver Stone, a few studio executives and some indie film producers.

Reading the piece, that's the Oliver Stone I want to see make a film about Terrorism. Perhaps the wind in his sails was heavily deflated by Alexander, but you read those comments and then see the turn he's taken.

Immediately what comes to mind is he's doing one for the studio to get himself back in good graces before he can do a picture for himself. Then maybe he'll head back down that erradic course that he was on following the inevietable sucess of his film.