Obama picks Rick Warren for inaugural invocation

[Sean]

Setting the specific issue of gay marriage aside for a moment, I believe that it's simply another example of Obama finding ways to achieve real progress. Time and time again, he's shown that his governing style is to engage people he's in ideological opposition to by finding a foundation of trust and respect to build the possibility of change on. For example, Lieberman embraced and perpetuated the idea that Obama "pals around with terrorists" during the campaign. Democrats wanted retribution, but Obama voiced his support for Lieberman to retain his chair on the Homeland Security Committee. You can bet he'll be able to work more effectively with Lieberman now than had he continued the chain of tit-for-tat squabbling.

Regarding the social acceptance of equating gay marriage with paedophilia and the like, yeah, that's completely wrong. But if welcoming Warren into the fold means Obama may be able to work more effectively with him in ultimately changing some of those views for the better, then it's worth it to me.

[kagenaki koe]

i don't really see the furor over Rick Warren. what exactly is he going to do on Inauguration Day? it's not like he's going to preach about rights/laws/my religion is better than your religion etc. it's just one day and a prayer people!

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

i think he's a cracking dj and his work with way out west isn't to be overlooked - obama's gonna rock the capitol with this selection...

They didnt even blink. I thought it was funny though.

Typo In Proposition 8 Defines Marriage As Between 'One Man And One Wolfman'

December 17, 2008

SACRAMENTO, CA—Activists on both sides of the gay marriage debate were shocked this November, when a typographical error in California's Proposition 8 changed the state constitution to restrict marriage to a union between "one man and one wolfman," instantly nullifying every marriage except those comprised of an adult male and his lycanthrope partner. "The people of California made their voices heard today, and reaffirmed our age-old belief that the only union sanctioned in God's eyes is the union between a man and another man possessed by an ungodly lupine curse," state Sen. Tim McClintock said at a hastily organized rally celebrating passage of the new law. But opponents, including Bakersfield resident Patricia Millard—who is now legally banned from marrying her boyfriend, a human, non-wolfman male—claim it infringes on their civil liberties. "I love James just as much as a wolfman loves his husband," Millard said. "We deserve the same rights as any horrifying mythical abomination." On the heels of the historic typo, voters in Utah passed a similar referendum a week later, defining marriage as between one man and 23 wolfmen.

[Deckard]

I'm not going to start a new thread for this, but it made me laugh.

Pope likens "saving" gays to saving the rainforest

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict said on Monday that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behavior was just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction. "(The Church) should also protect man from the destruction of himself. A sort of ecology of man is needed," the pontiff said in a holiday address to the Curia, the Vatican's central administration. "The tropical forests do deserve our protection. But man, as a creature, does not deserve any less."



"Transsexual behaviour" you say?

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Deckard

"Transsexual behaviour" you say?

He actually has a point, you know. Chemical pollutants in the eco system are causing decreases in male hormones, sperm count, quantitatively measured masculine attributes, in not only our species but evident in several mammals.

So really, if we don't do something about the environment the world will be filled with nothing but lesbians.

Hmmmm.. Sorry just taking a moment to reflect on that sentence.

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

He actually has a point, you know. Chemical pollutants in the eco system are causing decreases in male hormones, sperm count, quantitatively measured masculine attributes, in not only our species but evident in several mammals.

No longer fashionable to say it in this post-PC-backlash era, but I wonder if a small decrease in male hormones wouldn't be a bad thing for the future of the planet.

Seriously though, I accept the environmental impact on sperm count and even the social impact on masculinity (I know they're more intertwined that), but I wish that was his point! The concern that gender theory (gay marriage can't have been far from his mind) will lead to "self-destruction for humans" honestly strikes me as just a bit premature and silly, and a proxy for what's really bothering him. After all, it's hard not to think we'll be done for by the climate, by war, by starvation long before any destruction arising from gender theory. If anything, the results of ever greater promiscuity may even pip the post to destruction before gender benderdom. In the meantime, a slowdown (or decrease) in population should, if anything, help save - not detroy - the world (let's be generous here and not get into the issue of contraception or question the Catholic Church's motives!)

But hey, I suppose when it comes to the topic of neglecting our reproductive duties, we should cede to the greater knowledge of the celibate man in the frock every time.

So really, if we don't do something about the environment the world will be filled with nothing but lesbians.

Hmmmm.. Sorry just taking a moment to reflect on that sentence.

You spend as long as you need contemplating a world full of nothing but Rosie O'Donnells.

(...with apologies to Rosie)