The Underworldlive.com thread

[King of Snake]

hmmm, seriously, the people encoding this stuff need to get their act together. I mean of course it's free and all but it would be nice to have some consistency and for things to actually work properly.

I'll happily do it for you, UW team

(btw. the nutrain video plays normally here, except for the skipping audio and video artifacts)

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

hmmm, seriously, the people encoding this stuff need to get their act together.

well, im sure there are other factors at work here.but yes if they need someone to do this stuff for them then I do this kind of thing all the time and I volunteer my services i do seem to be the one noticing these anomalies...

(guys: just email me at steve at dirty dot org )

[Jan]

It surprises me that noone seems to notice those ugly gaps between tracks caused by the inferior MP3 codec they use (itunes?).
The Blue Mountain gig is a good example for this. The track transition are completely screwed up. Switching to something better would also improve the perceived quality noticably.
I suggest the LAME codec, which proved to be the best MP3 codec available. (something like 'lame -V5 --vbr-new [input] [output]' would do what they want --> ~130 kbps). A mac version is available, too. With a gapless player like foobar2000 or winamp, there will be no gaps anymore!
For the Riverruns, they could reencode their material with '-V2 --vbr-new', which gives about 190-200 kbps on most material (it is VBR). People moaning about the quality of the Riverruns should be satisfied with that.

For videos, i recommend x264, which is considered to be the best video codec so far. In combination with the easy to use GUI MeGUI and the free Nero AAC encoder, this thing is better than everything else. 160x120 at 10 fps hurts my eyes! IMO 320x240 at 25 fps without much artifacts plus good sound quality should be easily possible.

Originally Posted by stimpee

but yes if they need someone to do this stuff for them then I do this kind of thing all the time and I volunteer my services i do seem to be the one noticing these anomalies...

Originally Posted by King of Snake

I'll happily do it for you, UW team

awww come on, you just want to snatch the lossless versions...

[aNt]

i'll compress the lot as 3gp files! that'll sort it muhahahaha...

the achive is stuff as it comes- just get it out there- its the fun for the web innit... sweet... its going to get odd over time, we love it!

[lloyd]

I agree. the interweb is great for archive stuff, specially outside of a record comp. no salesdirector who thinks that 'this could hurt sales of regular releases' etc

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue]moan moan
things can always be better faster quicker ETC, but also worse, e.g. no more free releases
doh!
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[Jan]

yep, you are probably right...

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue] for a change, maybe i am


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[BeautifulBurnout]

Boys and their toys.

We need to bear in mind that it is that very same geeky attention to detail that has enabled us to have some fantastically good quality "unofficial" free stuff over the past year - *cough rtsr cough*. Without these kinds of skills we wouldn't have the lovely Dirty Summer Compilation either. So in that respect I think it is a little unfair to expect those very same people to have lower standards when it comes to sound/video quality simply because it is an official release. I don't think UW would get the hump as a result of this.

And it keeps them out of mischief. Mostly.

There have been far far worse moaning sessions on here in the past, yet the band know we are grateful for everything they do. I am very grateful for all the free stuff we have been given over the past year. The Misterons Mix is a delight. Thank you

[crank]

Karl if you are looking to unload a tomato book you can unload one on me!
crank!