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Old 06-18-2010, 04:13 PM
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Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
^ us yanks actually like golden goals. At least I think so. Sudden death in sports makes games really interesting. As far as not having a comeback, the losing team already had 90 minutes to score and end the game so they forfeit their comeback

I think golden goals are MUCH fairer than, say, penalty kicks.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:15 PM
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cured's explanation makes the most sense but wouldn't the team with the best fitness win if it came down to that? it seems like it would be pretty easy to allow for a larger team and more substitutions. why not let a player come back on the field?

what was the issue with the golden goal? why didn't it work?
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:23 PM
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cured's explanation makes the most sense but wouldn't the team with the best fitness win if it came down to that? it seems like it would be pretty easy to allow for a larger team and more substitutions. why not let a player come back on the field?

what was the issue with the golden goal? why didn't it work?
You gotta keep in mind the World Cup happens right after just about every league in the world ends their season, so teams with good players are usually having to nurse injuries from playing a long season. Also, the World Cup is often times held in the northern hemisphere and there are lots of issues with players cramping and being dehydrated in summer heat.

Draws are not a bad thing. It's a good way for a David (Algeria) to take some bragging rights away from a Goliath (England). If Goliath isn't good enough to beat David in regulation, just give them both a point and have them move on. In today's case, a draw for England could very well be their death knell. Just wait to you see what the tabloids have to say about it.

Don't worry, though, draws will be a thing of the past after next Friday. When that second round starts, you'll get overtime and, if that doesn't settle it, penalty kicks.

It all evens out. I've been watching the World Cup since 1994 and the best teams generally always manage to escape out of their group since there are 3 games to be played.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:28 PM
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what was the issue with the golden goal? why didn't it work?
it just didn't feel satisfactory for football. penalties, however nerve-racking, at least reduce the game to its essence ie kick the ball into the goal.

replays? again - it's about the world cup being intrisically the same game that my son plays in his sunday league - controlled and decided by the same set of officials...

as cured knows - 'it all evens out'
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:18 PM
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Also, FIFA needs to implement instant replay on important plays.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:29 PM
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Yeah, Ian's arguments are complete 'rubbish', to use the parlance of his superior countrymen. The game is worse for not having instant replay available. If a team wins any game they shouldn't have won because of a poor call by the official, the game loses it's credibility. I like how the NFL has limited challenges and put automatic reply review in play. I also think tennis has benefitted from instant replay. Baseball is starting to use it on certain plays too and that has ensured that the correct call is made. None of this fantasy fulfillment about tradition. It's about getting the calls right when the game is on the line.

Of course, it sounds like English football fans are content to tie and not at all concerned about the correct call being made.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:52 AM
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Yeah, Ian's arguments are complete 'rubbish', to use the parlance of his superior countrymen. The game is worse for not having instant replay available. If a team wins any game they shouldn't have won because of a poor call by the official, the game loses it's credibility. I like how the NFL has limited challenges and put automatic reply review in play. I also think tennis has benefitted from instant replay. Baseball is starting to use it on certain plays too and that has ensured that the correct call is made. None of this fantasy fulfillment about tradition. It's about getting the calls right when the game is on the line.

Of course, it sounds like English football fans are content to tie and not at all concerned about the correct call being made.
to use another piece of anglo-saxon - you're talking bollocks. you might be content with stop-start, let's look at the t.v. sports, with yaaaaaawning intervals between seconds of action- which is what you get in NFL and ROUNDERS. football matches haven't got time for that.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:22 PM
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btw, totally agree w/r/t the names of the sports. Football should be football and American Football should be Handegg or at least something else entirely.
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:26 PM
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That call hasn't gotten any better with age.
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:46 AM
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whoops!

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Malian referee Koman Coulibaly, criticized for disallowing a potentially U.S.-winning goal off a free kick in Friday's U.S.-Slovenia World Cup clash, may be dropped by FIFA for the rest of the World Cup, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

Citing a FIFA source, the report says Coulibaly is poised to face an expedited performance review from the refereeing committee of world football's governing body. Officials plan to review footage on Saturday from the Group C game to evaluate Coulibaly's performance after several U.S. players blasted his handling of the match, Yahoo said.

Second-half sub Maurice Edu appeared to put the U.S. ahead in the 86th minute, poking in a close-range shot after Landon Donovan's free kick to him. But the goal was waved off by Couilibaly, though it was not clear on whom the foul was called or what the foul was.

After the match, Landon Donovan said he asked the referee what the call was but did not get an answer.

"We asked the ref many times what it was or who it was on and he wouldn't or couldn't explain it," Donovan said. "I don't know what to think of the call because I didn't see any foul, just a normal free kick and a goal."
In the NBA and NFL, there are such phenomenon known as "make up calls". Let's see if the US gets any when they play Algeria.

video clip here:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-c...cc=5901&ver=us

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