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Old 07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
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Precisely. And funnily enough (or perhaps not), my impression is that it's always been supporters of his opponents who've had a vested interest in using terms like Messiah and Second Coming and Cult Leader in order to dismiss him. Or news correspondents looking for easy soundbites.
Yeah, that's exactly the impression I've gotten, too. It's primarily been used as a way to be dismissive of people who think he seems like a solid candidate.
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:02 PM
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http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...E851454E822F1E

Jesse Jackson, Jr. on Obama getting the nomination:

I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. ... The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:30 PM
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http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...E851454E822F1E

Jesse Jackson, Jr. on Obama getting the nomination:

I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. ... The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”
I'm just curious if this article was posted in response to the issue of people saying Obama supporters view him as a "Jesus"-like figure? If so, I'm not sure I would personally count it as such since it's more about the racial progress his nomination signifies. It seems less about Obama and more about the fact that people are elated that an African-American has been nominated whoever they may be.

Either way, it was an interesting link. Thanks for posting.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:50 AM
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So I found this interesting. First, it's reported that Iraq's Prime Minister has publicly stated that he supports and agrees with Obama's timetable for troop withdrawl. Then, he gets a call from Bush's people, and suddenly, the Prime Minister's office claims he was misquoted and didn't agree as strongly as reported.

But then, the New York Times gets it's hands on an audio recording of the Iraqi Prime Minister's comments, and provides these direct quotes:

"Obama's remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq."

and

"Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/...ca/21obama.php

So as long as people hear the direct quotes, I think I'd say that visit played in Obama's favor. But if all they hear is that the Prime Minister is backing off the comments, then I think it may not play in his favor.
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Old 07-21-2008, 04:17 AM
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So I found this interesting. First, it's reported that Iraq's Prime Minister has publicly stated that he supports and agrees with Obama's timetable for troop withdrawl. Then, he gets a call from Bush's people, and suddenly, the Prime Minister's office claims he was misquoted and didn't agree as strongly as reported.
Didn't something else like this happen recently with the Iraqi prime minister? He said something, there was some outrage in Washington, and suddenly his position was retracted or at least greatly watered down, and people were saying the same thing - he'd obviously "received a call".

Can't remember what it was now...
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:35 AM
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Re: Obama Obroad
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http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...E851454E822F1E

Jesse Jackson, Jr. on Obama getting the nomination:

I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. ... The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”

...and listening to his comments last week it sounds like jesse'd be first in the queue to crucify him!

(was there a big hoo-ha when mcain did the foreign statesman thing right after his nomination?)
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:00 PM
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...and listening to his comments last week it sounds like jesse'd be first in the queue to crucify him!

(was there a big hoo-ha when mcain did the foreign statesman thing right after his nomination?)
That statement about crying was actually Jesse Jackson Jr. - son of the Jesse Jackson that said he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off. JJ Junior is a Congressman and actually spoke out against his Dad immediately after the offending statements were released.
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