Another one o' them smoking ban threads....

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Sarcasmo

It's not about supporting the war. It's about the fact that there are men and women who have given something far more valuable than money to you and every other self-centered, think-only-about-myself, prissy, pampered, spoiled American out there...

OT a bit but I wanted to respond to this.

Lord knows I would be cursing us mopes back stateside if I were in such a hell on earth in the face of such indifference from home. Bitter wouldn't be the word. But I think some of this conventional bitterness misses the picture. like totally. It was one of your own, the commander in chief, that told us to be indfferent, to go to the mall, to spend instead of sacrifice, to bankrupt your service structures with tax credits that coincidentally are about the same dollar amounts as a chinese made flat screen tv at walmart.

I won't argue whether or not being self-centered, think-only-about-myself, prissy, pampered, spoiled is ingrained in our culture. I will argue that the strategy of diversion played by the pentagon run media and the white house had nothing to do with the fact that americans behave this way. They played their hand for one reason and one reason only. That the war is a sham and the more anyone starts digging into cost benefit analysis or ethical ramifications they see how much of a sham it is.

You could say the american people are guilty of allowing themselves to be placed under such soma. But now our behaviors of obedience and emotional patriotism become just as much of a factor as being self centered or spoiled.

People do what their leaders tell them to do. Soldiers go to war because they are told it is good for the country. Citizens max their credit cards in obstinence toward the financial writing on the wall.

We're all being played. And I don't want to be an asshole for saying this but I think its the truth.


What I'm really trying to say is this. I'm personally grateful for your service, everyone I know who hates the war are grateful for your service, and the role for each of us, citizen and soldier, is to come together against the real enemy - the prevarications and lies of our leaders. You deserve the same support enjoyed by the soldiers of ww2, our grandfathers and grandmothers who lived off of rations. We aren't that generation but we aren't being asked to be that generation either. And you have to fucking wonder why.