U.S. Presidential Election 2008

[Sarcasmo]

Originally Posted by cacophony

hardware DIY store. here's your typical home depot commercial:

man is watching football. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MEN DO! women is going shopping BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WOMEN DO! woman informs man as she's leaving that she wants new floors in the living room. BECAUSE WOMEN ARE HOMEMAKERS! man absentmindedly says, "yes dear" BECAUSE MEN DON'T LISTEN! and oh no! it turns out the woman knew he wouldn't be paying attention so she tricked him into agreeing BECAUSE MEN ARE CLUELESS, RIGHT LADIES?!?!? derpy derp derp.

it's right up there with the commercials where mom leaves for the day and dad can't figure out how to use the right laundry soap because men are clueless, but it's okay because mom bought the fancy laundry soap that's foolproof. so dad feels all confident when the whites come out shining white, and mom smiles knowingly at the camera because he's just a stupid man who couldn't find his ass with both hands and a roadmap, and thank god women are better at housework.

I love you. I've hated those commercials for years. Reinforcing gender stereotypes that have been obsolete since the 60's drives me insane. I mean, yeah, for the most part, I'm kinda doltish, but dammit, I can cook for myself and clean up after myself!

[Deckard]

Rupert Murdoch on Obama:

"He is a rock star. It's fantastic" "I love what he is saying about education." "I don't think he will win Florida.....but he will win in Ohio and the election". "I am anxious to meet him." "I want to see if he will walk the walk."

On McCain:

"McCain is a friend of mine. He's a patriot. But he's unpredicatble. Doesn't seem to know much about the economy. He has been in Congress a long time, and you have to make a lot of compromises. So what's he really stand for?... I think he has a lot of problems."

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Well, what to make of that.....?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Well, what to make of that.....?

... that, if Murdoch has the same influence in the States that he does here, Obama is the next POTUS.

[Deckard]

In praising Obama, perhaps he's trying to mobilize Clinton supporters?

Yeah it's a stretch, but I find my speculation has to stretch accordingly when it comes to that man, given what we know of how he operates. He's certainly no enemy of the establishment, and neither is he stupid. It's almost impossible for me to hear anything he says and not ask, "What's he up to?"

[Sean]

Michigan and Florida have been resolved:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

...and Hillary supporters are pissed:



"...An inadequate black male who would not have been running had it not been a white woman..."

Way to make Hillary supporters look vile, lady.

And the facts regarding Hillary's continuing claims that she's the stronger candidate..

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...s.progress.cnn

[Troy McClure]

Maybe we should revoke the 19th amendment to the US Constitution??? I'm kidding.


I'm not sure where Senator Clinton gets people have been trying to get her to drop out in January.

At first I didn't think it was going to be a good idea for the DNC to broadcast their hearings today. But, it turned out to be great because it showed how Clinton's supporters can be when their backs are against the wall. Senator Obama's supporters seemed to keep their cool, and didn't act in an immature matter.

I've been participating in the open thread on Senator Obama's website, and there have a been a number of HRC supporters posting today saying how they were screwed today, Obama's a muslim, they are voting for McCain...blah, blah, blah, blah.

If I'm an undecided voter who isn't wanting to support Senator McCain, would I want to join in Clinton's house of juveniles? Not really.


Hopefully the uncommitted superdelegates will let us know where they stand starting Wednesday morning.

Jason

[Deckard]

The next few days will be interesting.......

[cacophony]

clinton's conduct in this matter has been absolutely grotesque.

[Deckard]

It's her supporters that continue to amaze me...

"As members of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws panel voted in favor of the measures, some supporters of Hillary Clinton's White House bid rose from their seats and began to shout “Don’t steal my vote!” and “Let’s go, McCain!”

Several paced the back of the ballroom, yelling at the committee members and chanting “Denver! Denver!” – the site of this summer's Democratic presidential nominating convention.

When Barack Obama’s name was mentioned, boos filled the room."

Quite honestly they sound like a bunch of neanderthals. Clinton's core vote, I wonder? (We already appreciate their disdain of 'in-ter-lec-tuals', who are, by definition, elitists, and don't know how to bowl or drink beer like yer decent, working, hard-working etc etc... )

Really, if she takes this any further, she'll remove every last drop of doubt in my mind that she gives a flying fig about either the voters or the party - not that there's much doubt left already. It really does depress me that her 'at any cost' approach throughout this election campaign could be the single biggest factor that costs America not only a Democrat in the White House this year but also the chance to have had the best president in a long time, not to mention an enormous amount of restored respect from around the world (though I accept that there's a certain arrogance in assuming that the general opinion of the rest of the world matters much during a domestic election campaign, but still, it's set to be an additional casualty... )

If Obama's the nominee, her words against him will come back to haunt him and every Democrat supporter later this year, and irrespective of any reassurance from her about "falling in line with the eventual victor", her endorsement will sound hollow to the point of being met with hysterics. OK, all primary season differences can be used against the party's eventual nominee by their political opponent, but this woman has really gone overboard in supplying ammunition to the Republicans. She could have taken a more respectable approach with regards to so many things - the Obama/Muslim thing, the Reverend Wright furore, the comparison of Obama's inexperience with that of McCain - but on each and every one, she has chosen not to.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Quite honestly they sound like a bunch of neanderthals. Clinton's core vote, I wonder?

that's unfair. and the joke above about the 19th amendment is in poor taste. i wonder how the rest of you would react if a hillary supporter joked that we should revoke the 15th amendment.

and believe it or not, some very intelligent and insightful people support clinton's bid for office. some of the rhetoric in this thread is guilty of the same kind of shrill narrowmindedness that the extreme minority of clinton supporters are guilty enough.

perspective please, people.