Ring Road... next single...(?)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by stimpee

... and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

I don't like it just because it is Underworld. I like it because I like it. You don't like it. Horses for courses.

The spoken sample could be from any other artist or poet, as far as I am concerned, as long as it had a similar impact. If it was "constructed" in the same way, I would like the tune, irrespective.

(Whether I would have heard it as quickly, or at all, if it hadn't been a remix of an UW tune is another matter.)

[joethelion]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.

totally agree. The first time I listened to this mix, I was a bit 'ehhh'

but then when I was walking down to the printmaking studio, listening to the track on my headphones, it hit me like a ton of bricks - yea... this song IS actually pretty damn good!

I wanted to run back to my apt and try and use it in a mix, asap

like that part at around 5:30 where the beat comes back in = awesomeness

[Jason Roth]

Originally Posted by stimpee

This sounds like some dance track LL had laying around with some UW samples badly bolted on. "a rush job". nice choice of sample. Its really nothing special at all, and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

Yup.

[holden]

Originally Posted by joethelion

totally agree. The first time I listened to this mix, I was a bit 'ehhh'

but then when I was walking down to the printmaking studio, listening to the track on my headphones, it hit me like a ton of bricks - yea... this song IS actually pretty damn good!


like that part at around 5:30 where the beat comes back in = awesomeness

Yeah, like all tunes, there will be some that you like, hate or grow on you. I can see how this is a grower, but i still think it's a crap excuse for a remix. Yes, many remixes are much different from their original, but they almost always contain some elements in addition to the vocal that make them recognizeable to listeners as derivatives of the original track. That's what, by definition makes it a remix. Mixing anew some of the tracks, whether subtly or quite dramatically. Maybe Luke has disguised it well, but other than the vocal, i can't detect anything from Ring Road... not the drums, not the melody, no hooks.
Also, i think this song makes an impression at 4:00 and 5:30 whatever, because it is so different from what came before, hence my comments that it sounds like a few half completed tracks put together. But that's just my opinion.

But i think the underlying issue here, as some have already mentioned above is, why another single backed with remixes, no indication of B-sides? Maybe we'll be surprised. But the Laidback Luke comment on "Remix EP" doesn't sound promising.

Please, UW, please include something fresh and new! At this point, it's the difference between buying an import (cos you'll hardly ever find the singles in the US shops) and not bothering.

[joethelion]

you see... I think Luke kinda went at this remix as if he was a member of UW, turning it into a different beast altogether. Like what they did with tracks such as "Dark & Long" and turned it into "Burts" or like "Born Slippy" -> "Deep Arch"

like, what I hated about pretty much all the remixes by other artists pre-River Run 12"-es was that, they pretty much only added a few frivolous stuff on top of the track, not really doing anything new

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

what a steaming pile of poo of a remix, its totally ruined the good elements of Ring Road imo, and its devoid of any quality - where's melody from the chorus???

100% agree. what a terrible terrible bit of "music."

[BeautifulBurnout]

It's quite simple really.

If you don't particularly like breakbeat, you probably won't like this.

If you have a preconceived hatred of the DJ, you probably won't like this.

If you think remixes should be a simple variation on the original piece, you probably won't like this.

If you think it is obligatory that a remix contain the melody and harmony of the original piece, you probably won't like this.

All these things aside, you might well like this.

Then again, you might not.

To call something a steaming pile of poo or whatever else because you don't like it is a bit of a stretch, but understandable (especially round these parts ). As the French say, les gouts et les couleurs, ca ne se discute pas.

But, unless people are either telepathic or qualified clinical psychologists who have published research in the field, to suggest that the only reason someone likes it is because it has an Underworld sample in it is insulting the intelligence of the people who do like it.

What a bunch of elitist cock.

[cacophony]

that it's a steaming pile of poo is my opinion. it's subjective. just as it's your subjective opinion that it's enjoyable. it doesn't make anyone right or wrong, and it certainly doesn't make the criteria you laid out apply. none of those things apply to me yet i still very much dislike it. and i'm a remix junkie that can usually tolerate the most deviant take on a tune.

it's all about what floats your boat. it's not a contest to see who's right and who's wrong. like if X number of people say aye, and X+1 say nay, the nays have it. it's all just personal taste.

and i personally dislike the taste of poo.

[stimpee]

This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by stimpee

This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

...which is a valid reasoned comment, although I don't agree with it. Thank you.

Cacophony: Aside from all the "criteria" I did also say that people may still not like it any way. I accept that entirely. I don't accept being told the only reason I like it is because it has an Underworld sample in it. That was the elitist cock to which I was referring.