Oblivion Ball Tokyo Live Streaming

[Leon]

I haven't been listening to any UW live sets lately, because I do think the shows are a bit samey. Maybe because they just want to please the more mainstream fan instead of the hardcore Dirt. Nonetheless I am really looking forward to the gigs in Holland in January, because actually being there is quite different.

[BrotherLovesDub]

i'm happy to pay for whatever UW decide to release.

re: the set list. yes, i agree with dubman in that i wish they'd shake it up, esp. at an event like the Oblivion Ball but at the same time, i understand Janie's position too. the band are obligated to do the songs the crowd want to hear. for bands who have been around as long as UW have, there are some standards that you've got to perform for the crowd. however, as shown by the recent Cure tours, a band can perform album tracks, b-sides and fan favorites and still sell out shows and leave the crowd extremely happy.

my resolution for this would be for UW to start doing megamix style medley's of their tunes. who really needs for TMO to come back in after that break in the middle? is there ever a need for both Push Up and King of Snake? if they used their flexibility with Abelton Live a bit more to do seques and megamixes of their biggest hits, that would leave more time for some of the lesser played Fan Favs to get aired.

all in all, i'm 100% grateful that Underworld treat their fans so nicely. no other band that i know of provides the same kind of interaction and suppport for their fans. we get loads of stuff for free and we've got 2 great people driving the good-ship Underworld. Rick and Karl have been fantastic to the fans and their energy and spirit come through in their performances and their generous supply of demos etc on Underworld Live.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by testudo

hmmm... i guess you haven't been a fan for that long or are just very obtuse (and/or brainwashed)...

UWlive used to give SOOOO much to us, and I LOVED THEM for it...

they've just got UWLive redesigned and set up. yes, i got all the files from there in the past. i'm sure as time goes by, we'll get some more goodies from UWLive. the site just went live a few weeks ago, you can't expect for there to be tons of stuff up there already.

grab your pacifier and your favorite blanket and curl up with a hot cup of STFU.

[testudo]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

STFU.

SMFU?

[Jan]

Kittens?

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

i'm happy to pay for whatever UW decide to release.

re: the set list. yes, i agree with dubman in that i wish they'd shake it up, esp. at an event like the Oblivion Ball but at the same time, i understand Janie's position too. the band are obligated to do the songs the crowd want to hear. for bands who have been around as long as UW have, there are some standards that you've got to perform for the crowd. however, as shown by the recent Cure tours, a band can perform album tracks, b-sides and fan favorites and still sell out shows and leave the crowd extremely happy.

my resolution for this would be for UW to start doing megamix style medley's of their tunes. who really needs for TMO to come back in after that break in the middle? is there ever a need for both Push Up and King of Snake? if they used their flexibility with Abelton Live a bit more to do seques and megamixes of their biggest hits, that would leave more time for some of the lesser played Fan Favs to get aired.

all in all, i'm 100% grateful that Underworld treat their fans so nicely. no other band that i know of provides the same kind of interaction and suppport for their fans. we get loads of stuff for free and we've got 2 great people driving the good-ship Underworld. Rick and Karl have been fantastic to the fans and their energy and spirit come through in their performances and their generous supply of demos etc on Underworld Live.

Well said. I think it's pretty ridiculous to claim that uw are charging for everything as they're clearly still giving away lots of stuff for free on uwlive, not to mention the broadcasts which are free for all to tune into. So I'm not sure what Testudo is on about. The only liveshows you have to pay for are the ones offered by LiveHereNow, and they are professionally recorded and come with full packaging and artwork. I'm more than happy to pay for stuff like that, and also for new studio tracks/riverrun stuff on uwlive.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by testudo

hmmm... i guess you haven't been a fan for that long or are just very obtuse (and/or brainwashed)...

this seems needlessly hostile and not in keeping with the vibe of this place. i'm sure rick & karl would be endlessly overjoyed to know they'd inspired this level of discourse on their behalf.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

my resolution for this would be for UW to start doing megamix style medley's of their tunes.

GOD NO! medley's make me think of these sing along song singers.
Anyway, same for UW radio edits, it's just not right (although I agree, KOS and TMO could be shorter). No medley's please, but I do think, if they also play Dirty Epic again, why not do more of those "rarely heard live" tracks.

[Ufotofu]

I'm not sure who to agree with here. I mean, the Tokyo show was fantastic (esp. noodly intros), but it's the same sort of fantastic we've been seeing for a while. However, I think people are unjustly comparing "one-off" shows (Cocoon, etc) to every show on this tour. It's a tour, for God's sake. UW has been (barring illness) playing shows every few days, at least. Asking them to come up with brilliant, on-the-fly, improvised sets for dozens of shows borders on the absurd. Compared to other "electronic" acts, UW's sets are pure gold. I saw Daft Punk in Chicago this summer, which was a great show, but they play the same songs, in the same order, in the same way, every single time. Justice, who actually came to my cold, lovely hometown of Minneapolis, played intense, remixed versions of their songs, but I've heard that they play basically the same set every night. I know those two acts aren't anywhere near UWs caliber, but you get the idea. I think UW might be trying to throw little bits in for us (Monkey Wink + Nuxx, for example), and then using the rest of the set for stable, "tour mode" stuff. If their first show after their tour is just a "greatest hits" night, I might be a little more disappointed, but for now, people, just let them do their thing.

The only thing that really bothers me is the way they almost always seem to play Jumbo/Moaner as the encore. Rick, Karl-- Jumbo is a brilliant tune, and is definitely in my top five. However, could you perhaps surprise us next time? Or, at least play a slightly remixed version of Jumbo? Por favor?

[Dirty0900]

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