_even_more_riverrun_mixes_(and_turntable_stuff)_

[Jan]

Originally Posted by negative1

check this link out : http://brianstagg.co.uk/p_t_a_clipressed/
concerning : depeche mode - playing the angel on vinyl

later
-1

This is crap. You get nothing by just looking at waveforms. His wannabe scientific method is completely invalid. A waveform alone can not give information about the dynamic range.
I hate the loudness war myself, but this is just wrong.

[cacophony]

i agree that you can't learn a lot from simply looking at the waveforms. for example, it tells you nothing of the signal in relation to the noise floor. in which case the smaller waveform could be the inferior one.

however the methodology isn't completley invalid. this image tells the story. the squared off tips of the peaks means clipping, pure and simple. a non-clipped signal doesn't square off.

so in this case, the point is valid. but you're right, you can't make a purist argument against louder mastering simply by comparing the size of waveforms alone.