Grindhouse

[Aaron Contreras]

Tarantino is no longer ahead of the curve with dialog.
His music selection is still ace.
Planet Terror was way more entertaining. Both movies were too long.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

My only complaint would be not seeing this at a drive-in.

For many reasons.



OK now clean up yours.

[koisk]

SOME SPOILERS BELOW

I thought the bad-film effects in Planet Terror were interesting. The film quality added atmosphere into the film - the trunk opening scene near the beginning (with the green fog, right before the first killing) was more scary and tense becuase of the film which was starting to scratch, crackle, and obscure the action much in the same way the fog was. I thought it was interesting becuase you can'd do something like that in a normal film - the audience would just assume the film was damaged and it would look out of place.

I mean, the movie was so over the top, so why couldn't the effects be as well?

As far as Grindhouse, I know the dialog was ment to be a little pointless, but it was really bad. It made me reconsider all the things I like about QTs movies. All I could think about while watching it was - Here are four Quentin Tarantino's sitting at a table. However, the last half was amazing. Kurt Russell's turn of character was cool to watch, but the chase itself was so gripping - it was technically very basic but so much more intense then any modern-day car chase sequence (CUT to tire, CUT to hood, screetch, CUT to Car # 2, techno music! CUT to road, argh!!!). It also ended perfectly.

EDIT:

Forgot - the conversation about "The Who." UGHH. I thought that was infinitely terrible. Tarantino and Rodriguez might as well have photoshopped thier faces on the characters and had the conversation in the middle of the thing.

[Aaron Contreras]

Originally Posted by koisk

All I could think about while watching it was - Here are four Quentin Tarantino's sitting at a table.

I thought the exact same thing. It was not enjoyable.

[potatobroth]

while its pretty obvious that going from Planet Terror to "Don't" and "Thanksgiving" that Death Proof's talkiness would be a letdown in momentum, i still thought it was highly entertaining. the talking scenes were a bit over the top, but still kinda funny and ultimately the payoff was well worth the slow ride. two simple stories managed to keep me giddy and smiling the whole time. i'm just glad i was old enough to remember those crappy movie saturday afternoons on WPIX NY. "and now, without further interuption, the exciting conclusion to The Octagon."

[Scott Warner]

All I could think about while watching it was - Here are four Quentin Tarantino's sitting at a table.

Hahahaha exactly.

I finally saw Grindhouse last night. Overall I'd say I enjoyed about 3/4 of the experience, particularly the trailers.

Machette and Thanksgiving were hilarious and both of them nailed the spirit of those old trailers - these double feature movie house places are a couple of generations before my time but I certainly remember watching horror movies in the early 80's that would have these sorts of clips before the movie.

Planet Terror was as advertised. My audio director at work would nod with delight to hear me say "The music was at least 50% of the experience". What good dumb fun this movie was.

Death Proof was irritating until the action sequences kicked in. I really enjoyed Kill Bill because, among other reasons, Quetin gracefully shut his characters up for once. Here it's back to four dudes sitting around the table talking about Madonna's big dick... and it's like, hey, didn't I come in to this GRINDHOUSE thing to see GRINDHOUSE movies? I like how he just totally bypasses emulating the shitty quality (both content and fake physical effects on the film reel) about five minutes into the movie and just starts making one his movies, complete with 70's record fetishes and everyone just too bad ass for you. It's not BAD it's just not really following the high concept of what I paid money to see! Also, I'm sick of his dialog... he's like slightly better than Kevin Smith at this point.

Anyways, cool stuff.

[koisk]

Originally Posted by Scott Warner

Also, I'm sick of his dialog... he's like slightly better than Kevin Smith at this point.

I get that. I mean I love all the QT movies, but then after seeing Death Proof with it's grating dialog not only does it make me not like the dialog in this movie but other QT movies as well. It's a sudden realization that all the dialog is the same, just different subjects. I like your analogy to Kevin Smith too. Watching Clerks and Mallrats is awesome, but by the time you get to Clerks 2 and it's the same thing, you begin to wonder why you liked it so much in the first place.

Overall though I find these points minor, becuase I freakin' loved Grindhouse, Kevin Smith rules, and so does Tarantino.

And the music in Planet Terror was awesome as hell.