Is New Line dumb enough to make the Hobbit w/o P Jackson?!?

[grady]

Originally Posted by GforGroove

GOOD!!!
oh god. i hate cheesy sci-fi a la lord of the rings
jaja this is way funny.

awww....come on, thats not nice.

What's sad and ultimately frustrating is that the unique envoirnment and time that those three films were made is basically being discarded, haphazardly by some executives who feel they no longer need the core team of individuals involved in creating those films successful.

Maybe that is a bit romanticized, but New Line's behavior and course of action is simply propelled by greed on a large scale.

So they go and make The Hobbit and a LOTR prequel(Jebus, who didn't see that coming), but does/did New Line have the foresight to consider whether the actors and technicians loyal to Peter Jackson/Fran Walsh will join along.

Perhaps some might, motivated by the bottom line of money, but I can imagine most will not.

Then there is the slap in the face to the fan community, which is a double edged. Sure, the initial interest in The Hobbit may be substantial, but will wane very quickly. It seems most diehard fans of the LOTR trilogy are also very loyal to Jackson and crew. Out of spite I can see people not going to the film sheerly to prove a point.

Why abuse the talent that was responsible for bringing billions of dollars in revenue to your corporation?

I'm not advocating for The Hobbit movie, nor am I dismayed by the resulting situation, but it just brings to light some interesting insights into the relationship between corportations and talent.

It's like an ugly divorce and each side has their own reasons for why they can't get along and this is neither the first time, nor the last time this will happen.

But one last point, this makes me think of the situation that Mitch Hurwitz endured during the run of his show Arrested Development on FOX. While the two examples are not entirely congruent, there are many analogous details in how a corporation treats talent.

[Kennrr]

Originally Posted by grady

Then there is the slap in the face to the fan community, which is a double edged. Sure, the initial interest in The Hobbit may be substantial, but will wane very quickly. It seems most diehard fans of the LOTR trilogy are also very loyal to Jackson and crew. Out of spite I can see people not going to the film sheerly to prove a point.

that is just silly. most people will still see the movie. if the movie is just as good if not better than lotr, than no one will be talking about peter jackson. i think him and his team did a fantastic job and I wish he would be the director.

[grady]

Originally Posted by Kennrr

that is just silly. most people will still see the movie. if the movie is just as good if not better than lotr, than no one will be talking about peter jackson. i think him and his team did a fantastic job and I wish he would be the director.

Good point, but you never know. Either way, people will go see it, just like when they decide to make more Star Wars films.

[Deckard]

"I'm very sad as I should have relished revisiting Middle Earth with Peter again. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country."
- Ian McKellen

And Gandalf should know!
(Now all they need is Saruman on their ass... )

A poll on the BBC would seem to suggest most people either think it's a good thing he's been dropped, or don't give a shit:
Can a Hobbit film succeed without Peter Jackson?
Yes: 86.40% No: 13.60%

Two sites have been set up for those who do give a shit...
Petition supporting Peter Jackson
BoycottNewLine.com

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by Deckard

And Gandalf should know!
(Now all they need is Saruman on their ass... )

A poll on the BBC would seem to suggest most people either think it's a good thing he's been dropped, or don't give a shit:
Can a Hobbit film succeed without Peter Jackson?
Yes: 86.40% No: 13.60%

well its the way the question is phrased, rather than what people think of Jackson being dropped

can it succeed? - yes obviously because most people (the general public) probably won't care about who directs it - and loads will assume its made by the same people anyway... sadly the a larger majority of film goers are not all that clued up on the industry and will view this like any other movie when it eventually comes out...

will it be any good? - who knows... that is another question

is it worth making without Jackson... that is another matter also

if the question was asked differently maybe the %'s would be different

still New Line are fools for kicking Jackson either way, because i think people who know, do have a loyalty to Jackson and if its a different set upwith the Hobbit it may not be able to live up to what Jackson did with the LOTR Trilogy...

still lets wait and see... Kershner's Star Wars Movie was way better than Lucas's First, 4th, 5th and 6th

maybe they will get Lucas in on the Hobbit... after all he has a beard...

[chuck]

Course.

It doesn't help the 'relationship' if one party is sueing the other for a shitload of cash.

It's all about money - don't romanticise Mr Jackson - he's got plenty on the go as it is.

He's thrown his lot in with M$oft - so he knows where the dosh is coming from.

Whether he pulls it off or not is another matter.

New Line will make the Hobbit - people will go and enjoy the dragon FX, lunchboxes will have rings on them again - and we'll all live happily ever after.

It's movie-making. It's always about money.

[Deckard]

Well let's just hope the world of Tolkien continues with a Chris Nolan rather than a Joel Schumacher.