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Old 11-14-2006, 02:20 PM
grady
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Re: Babel
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but 21 gramms is the best of the trylogy...of 3. hehe..
no really, after 21 gramms, amores perros was a bit bleh to me...
and now after Babel, 21 gramms stands out from first and last.

I think he really need to start working with new screenwriters...
and let Guillermo Arriaga for a bit.

I was so happy they won in Cannes but im not sure yet why this screenplay won.. terrorism is so hot i tell you.
That is what one of my friends kept telling me, that 21 grams is the best, but I really enjoyed Amores perros the first time I saw it and haven't seen it since. I think I'll have to add 21 grams to the download queue this evening.

I'm in total agreement with the parting ways of Arriaga, it kind of sounds like that had already been happening with the recent publication of a rift between the two that ran in the Times 3 or 4 weeks ago.

I think IƱarritu deserved the nod for directing from Cannes.

terrorism is too hot for the hot tube!
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:56 PM
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Re: Babel
*SPOILER ALERT*











OK - I saw this film on Friday and really enjoyed it, although it took a good while to "heat up" - ditto just about everything that was said by GforGroove really. Fantastic visualisations, but the Brad Pitt/Cate Blanchett bit of the story was a tad tedious and, to my mind (maybe cos I used to have quite a few Moroccan friends in France?) a tad racist in the reactions of the tourists.

But anyway - I have a question that has been bugging me.









Spoiler ahead:


When the Brad Pitt character is phoning home from the hospital towards the end of the film, he talks to Emilia on the phone. Does this mean that the whole episode with Emilia and the kids hasn't yet happened in the scheme of things? Cos he talks of his sister-in-law Rachel coming over the next evening to look after the kids. Or is it just a big blip in the continuity? It has left me really puzzled. Any thoughts, anyone?
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: Babel
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[COLOR=#c8b090]Emilia and the kids go to Mexico after the Brad Pitt character has spoken to them on the phone, which means the whole incident with Cate Blanchett has already happened. The timeframe is deliberately shifted from scene to scene.


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Old 07-30-2007, 02:40 AM
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Re: Babel
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Fantastic visualisations, but the Brad Pitt/Cate Blanchett bit of the story was a tad tedious and, to my mind (maybe cos I used to have quite a few Moroccan friends in France?) a tad racist in the reactions of the tourists.
I disagree because I have seen stupid tourists act like that. Living here for just about a year now, and dealing with tourists everyday, I can tell you that there are two types, 1) are exactly like the people on the bus in the movie. I really don't like these types of people in general. 2) the people who are more laid back and come to the country after doing some research and have some knowledge about the culture etc. Usually, these people are really cool and down to earth. Mainly, they are experienced travellers and know what they are getting into when they leave the comforts of the West and decide to travel in less developed places. For example these people would take a bit of extra time to dress somewhat modestly knowing that they are in a Muslim country, unlike some of the French people coming here dressing in bikini tops and miniskirts and being completely ignorant to the fact that they are being disrespectful to the people living here.

Actually, I get a twisted pleasure in seeing the ignorant tourists around, especially if they try to talk to me. I ignore them and act like I don't understand them, which is even more funny because they think that if they just talk louder I will understand!! Hahah; idiots.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:46 AM
myrrh
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Re: Babel
Oh yeah, I thought that the movie itself was pretty good. I think that the Japanese story was the best and most moving. They did manage to capture Moroccan life outside of the cities pretty spot on. And it was nice to see the people speak Darija, which is the dialect of Arabic here. These type of things, I feel made the movie really good.

They premired this last year here at the International Marrakech Film Festival, in which Brad Pitt was here for it, along with a long list of other actors. The film festival is getting huge here now; and this is going to probably bring more stupid idiot tourists, unfortunately.

I am really begining to hate living in the middle of Marrakech and just feel like moving up into the mountains and becoming a sheep herder.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:10 AM
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Re: Babel
Deckard: thanks for that. Cos the conversation appeared different from the Brad Pitt end, I really wasn't sure if that was the case.

Myrrh: You live in Marrakech? You lucky blighter! LOL at the ignoring the tourists bit though. I had one or two experiences of rude British tourists when I was living in France that made me ashamed of my country, I must say.

O/T anecdote: One lunch time, walking back to the office, I walked past a group of northern blokes, one of whom said "Phwoar, look at the tits on that!" as they passed me. His face was beetroot-red when I turned round and said "Are you talking to me, love?" He apologised and kissed my hand, while his mates sniggered.

Pwnd!
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