Underworld and Prog Bands

[amoe]

I like Floyd, and Tool if they qualify.

[stimpee]

I still fail to see how this thread has anything to do with Underworld.

[holden]

Originally Posted by stimpee

I still fail to see how this thread has anything to do with Underworld.

read Beatiful Burnout's first post and all is clear. Especially if you consider UW an "albums band" and more progressive than the average dance music band, i think it's obvious what we're getting at.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by holden

read Beatiful Burnout's first post and all is clear. Especially if you consider UW an "albums band" and more progressive than the average dance music band, i think it's obvious what we're getting at.

erm no. " bands such as Underworld and Orbital taking the prog influence a step further" doesnt say anything. a lot of bands are "albums bands" and i dont believe Underworld are any more an albums band than most. Theyve released lots of singles too. The link is tenuous. Please define "progressive" in your sentence above.

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Originally Posted by stimpee

erm no. " bands such as Underworld and Orbital taking the prog influence a step further" doesnt say anything. a lot of bands are "albums bands" and i dont believe Underworld are any more an albums band than most. Theyve released lots of singles too. The link is tenuous. Please define "progressive" in your sentence above.

i'd say they're progressive in that they don't stick to a strict formula, that they like to experiment. mostly this works, as they have high standards and are able to assess their work well. but sometimes they fall into noodley bollocks... i think progressive in electronic music also means that they shy away from the mainstream - many bands that use a lot of different styles and therefore cannot be pigeon-holed end up with the 'progressive' tag because it's easy for journalists.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by stimpee

I still fail to see how this thread has anything to do with Underworld.

Because I am specifically looking towards the prog electronic/rock (and I use this bastardised term because I don't think ELP and Yes, for example, necessarily fall into the category "rock") groups of the early 70s as an essential element in, and influence on, the development of Underworld's sound. In my view. People will have different views and I think it is an interesting topic to explore and discuss as it is one that crops up from time to time in various places on the forum.







HAPPY NOW?!!

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

Because I am specifically looking towards the prog electronic/rock (and I use this bastardised term because I don't think ELP and Yes, for example, necessarily fall into the category "rock") groups of the early 70s as an essential element in, and influence on, the development of Underworld's sound. In my view. People will have different views and I think it is an interesting topic to explore and discuss as it is one that crops up from time to time in various places on the forum.

HAPPY NOW?!!

Not in the slightest. I dont see Underworld as influenced by prog rock bands. Care to elaborate on WHY? and more specifically, WHAT similarities?

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[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by stimpee

Not in the slightest. I dont see Underworld as influenced by prog rock bands. Care to elaborate on WHY? and more specifically, WHAT similarities?

I fart in your general direction! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed
animal food trough wiper!

To give you just a few examples off the top of my head, try tracks such as "One of These Days...." and "Sheep" by T3h Fl0yd, the albums Close to The Edge and Fragile by Yes, virtually anything by King Crimson, ditto Emerson Lake and Palmer (perhaps not Tarkus which was quite considerably up its own bum), virtually anything by early Tangerine Dream.

Go and find them, listen to them, and then tell me if you think that the roots of Underworld. The Orb, Orbital et al. can't be found in them.

[holden]

Read this at your leisure with an open mind, particularly the characteristics of prog rock, most of which apply strikingly well to UW as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock

[stimpee]

So thats your answer is it? go and listen to some dinosaur remains. read the wiki. no thanks. the idea is for you to present the evidence here not for us to find out for ourselves. i'd rather drink paint than listen to anything containing Rick Wakeman.

I can see elements of The Orb in Pink Floyd, not just in the music but in the artwork (the Battersea Powerstation reference is obvious) but not with Orbital or Underworld.

"One of These Days...." and "Sheep" by Pink Floyd
Close to The Edge and Fragile by Yes
virtually anything by King Crimson
virtually anything by Emerson Lake and Palmer
virtually anything by early Tangerine Dream.

Certainly Tangerine Dream are much more ambient and electronic than progressive rock and King Crimson have the psychedelic element with Robert Fripp going off at a tangent at various times, whereas I see Underworld as much more sequenced and repeated than anarchic guitar/keyboard solos. but just name dropping these doesnt say anything more, though i suspect if i keep prodding you with a sharp stick you might answer properly and not just in big letters.