Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by goldfish

I don't care if it's a bootleg or not (if anyone's playing semantics here, it's you). 'Commercial' but unattainable is still unattainable.



Again, RTSR has no relevance here. This isn't RTSR.

Obviously it's nice that you're not trying to prevent anyone from doing what they want outside of dirty, but it rather misses the point. It's discussion that's been banned.



Bullshit, for a number of reasons. Firstly, this has always been a place where rare Underworld releases have been shared to people unable to get hold of them otherwise (unless you're encouraging eBay profiteering, which I'm sure you're not, are you?). Secondly, if Underworld or any band fuck around with different releases in different countries, you're damned straight that this is a place where that inequality should be levelled up. If I buy an album, I expect to get the full album, not half an album.



Again, you miss the point. If you can't or won't share, that's fine; but who are you to stop those that want to? Generally there are plenty of people willing and able to share the wealth, but are now being told that they can't do that.

I still find it bizarre that everyone should be coming over all virtuous-like, whilst dirty.org is happily distributing music illegally through dirty radio... talk about hypocrisy!



Others have already covered this. If you know something, say it, if you don't, shut up. If nothing else, if there's a chance that the show will be released through underworldlive, why not just say so and so prevent some poor sod blowing £50 via eBay on the CD, thereby also injecting a hint of reality into the prices being charged. It's just common sense that everyone here should be old and ugly enough to understand. This entire thread would've been killed stone dead if someone, I don't care who, had said 'Underworld are investigating providing the live show via Underworldlive - be patient for a few weeks or two and we'll know more'.





Simon

Either you can't read what has been said over and over in this thread and not just by me, or you don't want to.

Or you can read but can't understand what you are reading.

Or you can understand what you are reading but want a fight anyway.

You said people were trying to ban the sharing. So I and others pointed out (and if you had read back through the whole thread you would have picked up immediately) that no-one was banning this being shared.

Oh dear - proved wrong. So you move the goalposts again and say "ah, but this is no different than Bootleg Babies or any other bootlegs" and take a pop at Eike in the process. So it is explained that it is, in fact, not a bootleg, it is a commercial product.

Oh dear - wrong again. So you move the goalposts again and say "ah, but you are trying to ban discussion".

Nobody has banned discussion. Jesus, this thread wouldn't be here anymore if they had. Nobody has banned anything except PUTTING UP LINKS ON HERE TO SHARE COMMERCIAL UNDERWORLD MATERIAL. Which has, I think you will find, always been the case.

Nobody knows anything you don't, dear, unless it is Scott or Yannick, and they are certainly not sharing their secrets with l'il ole me if they do. I dunno where all this conspiracy theory is coming from.

Whatever. I'm wasting my breath arguing with you. You've had your fun now Simon. Go pick a fight somewhere where you are going to win without moving the goalposts of your argument every five minutes.

*New Year's Resolution - must stop feeding the trolls*

[froopy seal]

Originally Posted by goldfish

Bullshit, for a number of reasons. Firstly, this has always been a place where rare Underworld releases have been shared to people unable to get hold of them otherwise [...].

Is this true? I haven't been around as long as others but this sounds quite different from what stimpee, BB, bss etc. post nowadays.

Originally Posted by goldfish

Secondly, if Underworld or any band fuck around with different releases in different countries, you're damned straight that this is a place where that inequality should be levelled up. If I buy an album, I expect to get the full album, not half an album.

Well, this is an issue of releasing policy. It's not on us to decide what _should_ be on an album.

Originally Posted by goldfish

[...] If you can't or won't share, that's fine; but who are you to stop those that want to? Generally there are plenty of people willing and able to share the wealth, but are now being told that they can't do that.

Ever heard of copyright laws? They might seem annoying and you don't have to like them but an official fan forum has to respect them.

Originally Posted by goldfish

Others have already covered this. If you know something, say it, if you don't, shut up.

Ever heard of free speech (including the right not to speak)? I can't see why you get so pissed off for nothing.

Originally Posted by goldfish

If nothing else, if there's a chance that the show will be released through underworldlive, why not just say so and so prevent some poor sod blowing £50 via eBay on the CD, thereby also injecting a hint of reality into the prices being charged. It's just common sense that everyone here should be old and ugly enough to understand. This entire thread would've been killed stone dead if someone, I don't care who, had said 'Underworld are investigating providing the live show via Underworldlive - be patient for a few weeks or two and we'll know more'.

That info would be very welcome. Although there is no such announcement, the dirties shouldn't take vigilante justice.

[Aziz]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Underworld-Liv...QQcmdZViewItem

[potatobroth]

grrrrr!

those look real nice too. i'd totally have purchaed them off the site.

[Dirty0900]

Fucking shocking

[big screen satellite]

ouchie...seeing as the last one on ebay went for $340...i suppose there will be takers (suckers) for this...

but like we've already covered 7,000+ copies, potentially, isn't rare...its just that most of them are concentrated on one continent...

well good luck to those bidding on it...

[change]

That's a lot o' money. Was Osaka released on CD too? I heard the show last weekend and it seemed shorter. The recording I half-assed from dirty radio is only about 120 minutes. Perhaps I had a bad stream or just missed part of it, but why aren't people talking so much about Osaka too?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Osaka wasn't released on CD, no.

The Tokyo gig was announced as being on CD only for those attending the Electraglide gigs. UW tried to stream it live through the underworldlive.com website (if you listen to the live recording, in fact, somewhere in there Karl gives a shout out to all the Dirties listening on the wonderful internet ). As the streaming didn't work for Tokyo, many industrious people managed to get it together for Osaka instead, and that gig was streamed live on uwlive.com.

The Tokyo gig was then streamed after the Lemonworld broadcast just before Christmas. By that time, mp3s of the gig were floating around the intarweb (whence this thread).

As to why people are not talking so much about Osaka, I couldn't possibly comment.

[Jan]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

ouchie...seeing as the last one on ebay went for $340...i suppose there will be takers (suckers) for this...

It's the same copy...

[lloyd]

Yeah this is the winner of the earlier auction, trying to win his money back after copying it I presume