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Old 08-30-2017, 02:31 PM
khouri
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Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
The Kittens = Darren revelation just made me think of something...

Five Points = Darren? Could explain its absence?
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:18 PM
Billy Goat
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Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
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The Kittens = Darren revelation just made me think of something...

Five Points = Darren? Could explain its absence?
That was my point/question earlier in the thread, does anyone know whether Darren had any input with the re-issues or any say on what could or could not be included? Are the extra tracks just R&K's? Are there others Darren was involved with that won't ever be released?

I would be very surprised if Five Points was Darren's, the music sounds a bit like Headset to me and I'm sure it must be Rick's tune.

Now Rowla must be Darren's, I'm sure I remember reading there were problems with putting together STITI and which /who's versions of tracks to use: Surely Rowla was Darren's and Cherry Pie was Rick's? Sorry if this point has already been discussed!

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Old 08-30-2017, 05:32 PM
khouri
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Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
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Now Rowla must be Darren's, I'm sure I remember reading there were problems with putting together STITI and which /who's versions of tracks to use: Surely Rowla was Darren's and Cherry Pie was Rick's? Sorry if this point has already been discussed!
The live shows have tended to favor Rowla over Cherry Pie, so I've always assumed Rick had special fondness for it. According to the STITI credits in the reissue, Darren has co-writing credit on these tracks only: Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love, Banstyle/Sappys Curry, Confusion the Waitress and Pearls Girl. Even Nuxx is credited to Rick and Karl alone.

After the split I remember reading interviews with Karl where he suggested that Rick was more responsible for the banging tracks than people would expect, so it's probably unwise to make assumptions.

As for Five Points, it doesn't sound too out of place next to Emerson and Sasha's Scorchio single from way back when...
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