Dirty History

[Scott Warner]

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From: Tom Irwin <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:05:12 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Born slippy is cool

- -=- yep, but "born slippy rocks" ?????? !!!!!!! that an american thing?

- -=- *thanks* for your *kind words* -=- scott warner -=- <mbx719@west.net> :

>Yep, Tremblay's site has always been very cool.
>Mr. Irwin's also leaves me warm and fuzzy.
>Whomever runs that Netherlands one though has GOT to pull that
>annoying Apple II style flash shit from the beginning of it.
>

- -=- 'warm and fuzzy', eh? have to say, though, that that 'mr.' thingy leaves
me a teensy weensy perplexed: feel like a school teacher or something. most
people call me tom, whiles my best m8 susanne calls me thomas, though she
does agree with darren emerson that im a 'fuckin fruitcake' at times. takes
one to know one, i say, and darren emerson knows one, i can say: krazy krazy
krazy. do you like my postcard from 'hell'? made it myself.

- -=- tremblay, jp to his good aquaintances, and currently 'how to laugh at
the underwater underdog' (but then he changes his name every other day, dunt
ee) calls me all sorts of fruitcake tomboy things at times. now he is an
excellent m8. in fact it was him told me what that 'm8' thing darren uses
means, cos i was totally at a loss, m25, haha, fuckin internet infant
fruitcake me. his

***totally UNofficial so don't pester him with tell darren
i fancy him and rick has magic specs whered he get them and
that karl hes a fuckin fruitcake hmm underworld i loooooove
you siGHte***

is indeed a joy to behold. muzik magazine had a nice little picture piece on
it last month, not that i'm recommending you buy muzik magazine you understand.

- -=- peter baars, who runs the netherland site, has been awfy busy lately and
not had much time to get it together; maybe you could ask him to do
something about his 'applecake flash shit ' yourself in a personal
invitation to participate in all this dirty talk we're having here? i'd like
that.

transmitbaby -=-

s/n this time = 4:6 hows that andy?
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From: paninaro <standard.@mail.iri.su.se>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:13:26 -0700
Subject: lifeform detected on #dirtydarren

just wrote to say while im at it you know, that i saw #dirtydarren
(all cred for the lovely name is mine mind you) up and running
the other night. there were 3 people there when it got kind of crowdy.
irc is kind of scary... people there are either psychopaths who rape
their cats or just weird in general. i think i might contribute on
this work to keep the internet sane and perhaps visit regulary...
did i mention that i don't have a cat but a dalmatian? nevermind
keeping a dog is much cheaper than letting some bird inside your house
anyway... i think i lost track of this conversation. what i was going
to say was that in a year or so, i'll learn to use irc and then i can
interact with other people like you're supposed to on the net.

lee, just trying scott's patience.
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From: Interrupt <mbx719@west.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Born slippy is cool

On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Tom Irwin wrote:

> -=- yep, but "born slippy rocks" ?????? !!!!!!! that an american thing?
>
> -=- *thanks* for your *kind words* -=- scott warner -=- <mbx719@west.net> :

Yes, it certainly is. Anything good in America is deemed to "rock,"
regardless of non-rock content.

Although most American kids just prefer listen to traditional bang yo head
rock. With is something that English music writers ALWAYS miss the point
of. "Oh Americans won't understand this because he's bisexual." "Americans
don't understand Pulp, they're too camp."

Your average American kid couldn't give two shits wether an artist is gay,
screws trees, fondles animals, writes songs about architecture, or solves
the meaning of life in under fourty words. They just want to RAAWWWWWK.
Which is probably why bands like Oasis, Radiohead, and errr, ummm Bush
have done well over here, and bands like Blur, Pulp, and Suede have not.

Personally, I'd throw all of that away for some "Cherry Pie."

scott warner
mbx719@west.net
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From: ArgonTroix@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:26:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Born slippy is cool

Also having lived in the Euroland (okokokok--it was France, so SUE ME!) and
most of my useless life in the US, I agree with BOTH lee & Scott on this
little subject of Rawking In The U.S O' A. THey're both absolutely right
and I refuse to quote them because I'm drunk on wine and have to go spin a
set now--God help me. I'm in the Oregon desert in a fucking barn using my
lap top/cellular. I've become addicted to the list--this is a sure fucking
sign. Uhhhhhh.....rural kids looking over my shoulder...gotta run
folkks---OH!!! I'm going to spin my Romford Battle Royale tonight-- an hour
of Underworld vs. Jay Trance--guys who wins??? ; )

Loving you all from the west coast---
Troy
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From: its like a whole new lifestyle <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Pearls Girl re-issue

continued to tom, whoops massive reply...tin there has qualities
reminiscent of stepback, but a bit more "executive-production"
oriented...still that doggerel quality only now its rabid. oddly enough we
can use doggerel in the sense that karl (ifuckwordsup) hyde might and
apply it to doggy-like, or simply follow the lovely oed and run along the
"badly-produced" end of things, hence the scratchy-growling quality at the
top o' things. and "pearls girl" did have "puppies," too. as darren
pointed out oh so long ago before his massive leave of absence for
matters-promotional and whatnot, after initially logging in what seems
like twice a day.

whoo enough of the mutt theme for that single, stepback you slammin
darling

From: i dare not see any further than internal#017 <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:26:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Rabbits and bobs

> Darren Emerson wrote:
> >
> > also ..i haven't forgot about ther dirtylist tshirt...
> > anyone have any ideas what the want to see on it?????
> >
> > i;m gonna be sorting it out soon at tomato

erm...something most distinctly non-tshirt appearing. you know, typical
front center small fraction of the shirt image, turnaround to back center
half the shirt image.

and maybe a little stringent on the colours...tomato of late has gotten a
bit questionable when they get lenient with the color palette (see the
asian motif of pearls girl yecccch)

i wonder if this shit has any impact
i wonder if this shirt has any impact
i wonder if this shift has any impact

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 14:26:26 -0800
From: uhm... <djpsyche@opus.vcn.bc.ca>
To: dirtylist@west.net, d@spoonman.demon.co.uk
Subject: is Darren that cute? / is Peter out there?

hey there peter,

i got the AMP video, w/ the Underw orld vid's on it...
excellent darlin' i am impressed....
it'll go over well with the freaks that slither down to the netherworld
of the club... my thanks are universal.

wanna make it a regular deal???

p.s.

i never realized how cute you are Darren....did you?!?


psyche

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 14:09:00 GMT
From: Thomas, Martin <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
To: dirtylist <dirtylist@west.net>
Subject: filthy lucre

Darren flogging fan club material? whatever next? Mind you, I s'pose xmas is
just around the corner and every little helps eh?
I think a puppies t-shirt would be cool - not a huge fan of the tune though
(Scott, don't bother buying it unless you're a saddo completist).
And will you all stop trying to sound like Karl? please!

Martin

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From: Interrupt <mbx719@west.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:58:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: more thought...

After giving more thought to the t-shirt deal, I think it should be
something relatively simple. I like the idea of somebody's back there
to have the t-shirt that's not a t-shirt, but as far as what's on it...
maybe something like the "Born Slippy" shirts.

You know, on the front it could be like "underw orld dirt ylist."

The back of the shirt might have something in the way of artwork a little
more extensive?

How about good quotes from people on the list? Mmmm...like :

"we're not trying to establish world peace!!"

- Duncan

"where the hell is my mail goin?"

- Lee (well, okay, he didn't say that.)

"you're a fucking fruitcake!"

- Darren

Well, maybe those weren't so good but you get the idea.


scott warner
mbx719@west.net

[Scott Warner]

From: "i'm not a weird cartoon animal i don't think" <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:58:58 GMT
Subject: i too did just that sir

more scott warner <mbx719@west.net>
thoughts abound with ...

: How about good quotes from people on the list? Mmmm...like :
: "we're not trying to establish world peace!!"
: "where the hell is my mail goin?"
: "you're a fucking fruitcake!"
: Well, maybe those weren't so good but you get the idea.

absolutely scott, like:

a h m g o a n a y
stoap listenin tae
u n d e r w u r l d
noo t h u r in the
* * C H A R T S * *

in a discrete point size
- over to design co sartre sartre and expaninaro for advice -
in a nice fluorescent pink (or green) on plain black
with tiny

"a duncan pike swims with the fishes creation (c. 1996)"

running underneath.
cool tomatimage or 0 on the back
- don't really care that much.
without text,
or "don't stab me in"
if the wordsmiths have to have their wicked way.

roman <uesper00@mcl.ucsb.edu> ...

: "puppies"? is it worth the trouble?

well, not really.
sounds like s l o w e d d o w n d a vid b o w e
a la larfinggnome. which is okay
if ye dinnae wanna danz.
but 'tin there' is definitely danz.
t'other p.g. reissue is worth it for 'cherry pie' alone
(or am i in a muddle here?).

for those who don't know it the

cantrememberthenameofthispiratedfromuwleedsconcert .au

i still have somewheres on my site is well worth a listen
by you lucky wired-for-sound dirtmaggers.
not so good quality cos of the size but taste the speed.
after listening to 'confusion the waitress'
on same i think i might just
jolly-roger the bbc a little bit more cos it's magic.

"bright waters, saltwater" <standard.@mail.iri.su.se> ...

you're a wee bit blurred:
'vorsprung durch technik' predates 'wank-poppers' by a few years
they got it from the telly, lee. audi or bmw (memoverflow)

hi martin t.
noiz to ave yer back. like
'underworld is the opium of the people'
sort of Karl-sound or what?

hi to joe-blow@ic.ac.uk...
do you know my brother ron?

thouroughly recommended:
glenn underground - 'c.u.o. trance' (peacefrog)
(haha! ribbit... woops duncan)
for funktastic jazzzz 'supermarket' musik.
what ya say oh notoriously silent one?
(i guess you're the evelyn glennie mix).
answer the telephone...

relaggs dondoit
when ya wanna cumtoit
relaggs dondoit when ya wanna

tom

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From: hey lookit im a cartoon character from edinburgh <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:52:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: i too did just that sir

this coming in from joeblow@ic.ac.uk...says ronnies doing dandyfine, gave
up law a long time ago...moved onto the london stock exchange until he
looked out upon the floor and rather than see a bunch of wankers on suits
saw a bunch of e-ingesting laddies and lassies and said well im
ron@ic.ac.uk and hey i listen to flock of seagulls, violators a great
album...wearing dirtylist tshirts that arent tshirts (theyre so
unfashionable, shaggy duds) that proudly bear the phrase 'vorsprung durch
technik' in a font reminiscent of something that might read in
collaboration with francoise hardy. the universal or something i do not
know. hit it tomato.

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From: "bright waters, saltwater" <standard.@mail.iri.su.se>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 01:32:49 -0800
Subject: Re: la la la lee lee lee

Tom Irwin wrote:
>
> thanks lee... don't ask why... just thanks...

what for? we didn't end up in bed last time
i was in london did we? i remember something
about trying to get on a bus home from russell
square... were you that russian sailor?

> please explain something to me?
>
> re: ex-paninaro... i know that was awful so just shut up :>
>
> awful why?

because i) paninaro is synonymous to preppy in northern italy.
actually it comes from the panini sandwiches refering to rich
spoilt kids who hung around panini bars with nothing better
to do, until they started studying at Bocconi or wherever. I think
i-D used to do articles on that... when Milan was big and happening.
AND ii) the pet shop boys (and couple of italo-disco club anthems)
penned a tune named paninaro 7-8 years ago.

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From: Duncan Pike <duncanp@northcroft.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:44:13 +0000
Subject: Re: filthy lucre (fwd)

In message <Pine.SOL.3.91.961108084633.9492C-100000@acme.sb.west.net>,
Interrupt <mbx719@west.net> writes
>(Scott, don't bother buying it unless you're a saddo completist).

question, why exactly are completists sad?

possible answer. coz they've got all those tracks that you haven't. ha
ha ha ha ha
- ------------------------
Duncan Pike
duncanp@northcroft.co.uk

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From: "Thomas, Martin" <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 09:50:00 GMT
Subject: monkey message

Two things to say to Monkey Boy (or whatever his name is):

1. Don't say "not to be anal", when it's as clear as the sweat droplets on
my fevered brow that you are

2. Keep it up fella! Winding up dirtylisters is as easy as shooting monkeys
in a monkey barrel, but enjoyable for all that.

Two things to say to everyone:

1. Go and buy Daft Punk's Homework as soon as you can. It's the monkey's
nuts (easy big fella...)

2. Merry Christmas, you mad muthas

Martin

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From: "Thomas, Martin" <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 13:59:00 GMT
Subject: Duncan biscuits

Sorry about the delay in replying to your Daft Punk question Duncan - I have
only just recovered from a truly horrible Christmas party at Planet
Hollywood, which sapped my spirit so effectively that I swear I saw Delilah
outside singing 'Why Why Why, Sylvester' (da da da da da da da da *da*).
Anyway, I'm better again now, having listened to the first volume of Trade
at no: 11 all the way in on the bus this morning (second disc, natch).
Purism be damned, this is the way to banish the corporate demons after such
a horrid experience. Smile back on face, spring back in step, sauce back in
bottle.

What was I talking about? Oh yeah, Daft Punk. Well, I was a bit jammy there,
cos I stumbled across it at Sister Ray. They had 15 early vinyl copies and I
just happened to walk past the shop when they had one left - no more than
five hours after they'd got this secret batch. They were playing it at the
time too, so I was even luckier. There is good news here and bad news. The
good news is that I can assure you it's worth the wait. It's flipping
gorgeous! The bad news is that you still won't be able to get your hands on
it until January 20 (could be worse though - they were talking about a March
release only a couple of weeks ago).

Sorry to hear you're off - for a while at least. We didn't quite manage
world peace, but dirtylist has got a lot more entertaining of late, and
(pains me though it does to say this) you're one of the reasons why.

Good luck

Martin

[Scott Warner]

All right. All for now. Like I said, a bunch of random shit. But potentially interesting to some of you.

[dubnobasswithme]

Thanks for posting this, Scott! My dirtylist archives are on an old hard drive that I've misplaced at the moment. Fun to reread this stuff!

[bas_I_am]

where's threnody?? Kolemite???

[Scott Warner]

where's threnody?? Kolemite???

IIRC those two joined slightly later that the date of these posts!

[ebo]

This is awesome.

I just registered here.

I was a regular poster in the dirtylist back in '97-'99, under the same alias..now, 13 years later, I've found it again

I wonder how many of them old peeps are still here...Graham? Jay? Threnody? Geez it's been a while.

...anyone remember the infamous Nutella thread?

and who was the one talking about G.E.B. all the time?

Good times.

[//\/\/]

Originally Posted by ebo

This is awesome.

I just registered here.

I was a regular poster in the dirtylist back in '97-'99, under the same alias..now, 13 years later, I've found it again

I wonder how many of them old peeps are still here...Graham? Jay? Threnody? Geez it's been a while.

...anyone remember the infamous Nutella thread?

and who was the one talking about G.E.B. all the time?

Good times.

(sits rocking in chair on porch) Listers? Not too many o' them folk here these days, boy...

[gcoleman99]

Originally Posted by ebo

This is awesome.

I just registered here.

I was a regular poster in the dirtylist back in '97-'99, under the same alias..now, 13 years later, I've found it again

I wonder how many of them old peeps are still here...Graham? Jay? Threnody? Geez it's been a while.

...anyone remember the infamous Nutella thread?

and who was the one talking about G.E.B. all the time?

Good times.

Oh, crap! The Nutella thread! and that one blurb reminded my why psyche was named as such...