Arizona - WTF?

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

Well this isn't really the scope of the problem at all. Obviously the illegals aren't getting the best jobs but still, they're willing to work for less than minimum wage and can operate "off the books" so yeah many companies don't have a problem hiring them and that is a problem for us. Even if it is just farm and factory, our economy isn't exactly super healthy and there are a lot of people on welfare/unemployment who would like those jobs.

Let's maybe pause and I give you an opportunity to prove that illegal immigration has been a negative affect to the economy.
meanwhile...

If SB1070 passes, the support immigrants provide to the local economy will be lost, causing falling productivity. The cost to ensure correct identification for every search or arrest will be also huge.

So, again, you're using arguments about the economy that can be refuted in one minute of google time. Google Arizona Economy. Which makes me wonder: why isn't the one minute worth the investment, if it means you won't have to smear an entire ethnic group?

And why are the banks and construction companies excused from this mob? They hired them illegally. They gave them money to send back to mexico attached to a note saying bring everyone else. Why isn't AZ passing a bill that allows the police to ask for payroll sheets from every employer it meets. And if the employer doesn't have it with them, they'll got to jail until they are proved innocent?

I mean illegal immigration is such a biiiigggg fucking problem right?

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

Don't take this the wrong way you sound like someone who has never really experienced Mexican drug violence or has never lived in a neighborhood (as I have) where most people DON'T speak English. I remember a laundromat that had a "we speak English" sign, and taking it to be kind of confrontational until I realized that many of the businesses in the area DIDN'T have many English-speaking employees. It's not a huge problem but if we get huge influxes of people that don't speak English you can see how it would be.

Look dude, it sounds like you've been a victim of violence or something and sure that sucks. Lets put aside for a second that "mexican" drug violence is any more exquisitely unique an experience than say russian drug violence, or english drug violence, or american drug violence.

this immigration bill is not the answer.

having these kind of dialogs, reading the comments on news sites, I think people have lost their fucking minds. I truly worry for the american republic.