Everybody Was Euro-Dancing

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by froopy seal

I guess I'm a backward-looking turd polisher now.

you might say that, i couldnt possibly comment.

Originally Posted by King of Snake

the sound is quite glitchy in places (probably a timestretching artifact) which makes it kind of annoying to listen to to be quite honest.

I think its not the glitchyness that makes it annoying. I'm rather disappointed in you. I thought you had better taste in music

/miserable old twat.

[King of Snake]

haha well nothing wrong with Snap-Rhythm is a Dancer or Haddaway-What is Love at least but it needed a bit more stuff like this:


or this



and of course this:

[froopy seal]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

haha well nothing wrong with Snap-Rhythm is a Dancer or Haddaway-What is Love at least but it needed a bit more stuff like this:


or this



and of course this:

True, Wonderful Days should have been in there. How could I omit it??? Maybe for a second vol., there's still some tunes out there...

[froopy seal]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

btw what did you use to make this mix and where did you get the tracks?
a technical thing: the sound is quite glitchy in places (probably a timestretching artifact) which makes it kind of annoying to listen to to be quite honest.

You are, of course, right, and I noticed as well, but couldn't correct all the timestretching artifacts because I'm a n00b.

I made it with the, err, demo version of Live. The problem is probably caused by the shabby source files which are usual-quality MP3s (i.e., 128+ kbit/s) from 90s CD compilations. Strangely, different parts of the mix sound differently glitchy - but not altogether consistent with the amount of warping. Another funny thing is that the mix sounds most awful in Live, best as a .wav in Audacity, and somewhere in between as an MP3 in the website player.

Do you have any suggestions for proper artifact correction, KoS?

P.S.: Luckily, my friends don't have your ears, so they didn't complain. Also, the party's general sound level might have helped.

[King of Snake]

well the main thing you have to keep in mind if you're mixing in Live it to set the warp mode for the tracks to either Complex or Repitch.
Repitch is best since it doesn't degrade the quality or introduce any artifacts, but it works just a like a record player so if you speed a tune up or slow it done too much from it's original tempo it will sound pitched too low or too high.
Complex mode will keep the pitch as it was in the original regardless of what the tempo is, but it does tend to make the sound a bit soft and "digital" although it shouldn't introduce any real glitchy artifacts like you might get at the other modes (beats or tones)

[Camiel]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

well the main thing you have to keep in mind if you're mixing in Live it to set the warp mode for the tracks to either Complex or Repitch.
Repitch is best since it doesn't degrade the quality or introduce any artifacts, but it works just a like a record player so if you speed a tune up or slow it done too much from it's original tempo it will sound pitched too low or too high.
Complex mode will keep the pitch as it was in the original regardless of what the tempo is, but it does tend to make the sound a bit soft and "digital" although it shouldn't introduce any real glitchy artifacts like you might get at the other modes (beats or tones)

But does the demo version of Live feature those algorithms?

[froopy seal]

Thanks for the, err, praise, guys. Nostalgia is what I had in mind, too. And maybe there's even one or two songs which... No, no, no, stupid thought! Stupid! Pull yourself together, man!

Originally Posted by stimpee

Fuck me, what an awful mix. Or rather, im sure the mixing from track to track is impeccable. But i'd rather drink paint than listen to this. I lived through this once and the scars are only just healing. This has no ironic / kitsch value for me. Just pain. If this is a cry for help you just have to say, and we'll send you some decent music.

Call me a music snob if you like but you have to draw the line somewhere.

You miserable old music snob! In fact, I regard that thumbs-down as a confirmation that I hit the nail right on the head.

However, maybe that cry-for-help theory of yours isn't that far off the mark, Dr. Steve...