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Old 01-16-2010, 10:10 PM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
i sincerely doubt that obama's managed to garner a lower approval rating than bush TOOK YEARS TO SINK TO after one year, but you guys have fun.

2 years is an extraordinary amount of time.

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Old 01-17-2010, 04:46 AM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
are we talking about bush the band? If not, then come back down from that cloud, dude.

gw bush enjoyed approval ratings in the 80's after the first year and a half, largely because of the war on terror. it took 6 long years afterwards to grind it down to the 40's and 30's.

So yeah its the exact opposite of obama.

But I agree 2 years is an extraordinary amount of time. It doesn't change the fact that the economic factors that may cause things to go further south, which would spell imminent doom to any hope for second term are probably already in place and are probably irreversible at this point.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:05 AM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
ways obama can win the second term.

1. he starts a weekly televised conversation with the public (not unlike roosevelt's fireside chats, only more hostile) that details his plans, what he's doing, why he's doing it, and who's stopping him.

2. He wraps up one of the wars.

3. The noodleheads on the other side actually push palin through the primaries. Frum, the national review, and other brainier conservatives revolt, buy their souls back from Satan's pawn shop and support a third option, splitting the ticket.

4. the economy rebounds (fat chance)

5. he clears his entire cabinet and starts over with people who are better at getting the job done, as opposed to place holders so that opposing sides can be happy and people can be nice and hold hands.

Bottom line he needs to start going back to the grass roots that he himself organized and patch things up, because when his legitimacy has been so thoroughly chained to the back of a texas pickup truck and dragged for thirty miles, he simply can't rely on the aura and majesty of the presidency to push him over the edge.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:30 AM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
In regards to your bottom line:

If ONLY he had not been handed a big pile of shit to miraculously change into bread.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:38 AM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
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are we talking about bush the band? If not, then come back down from that cloud, dude.

gw bush enjoyed approval ratings in the 80's after the first year and a half, largely because of the war on terror. it took 6 long years afterwards to grind it down to the 40's and 30's.

So yeah its the exact opposite of obama..
this is one of those misunderstandings that arent worth explaining. fixed the post for you <3
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:50 PM
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this is one of those misunderstandings that arent worth explaining. fixed the post for you <3
I realized I misunderstood you before, but thought the points I made were still valid, evenso.

Regardless you're right, its not worth explaining why you're wrong, when you're not arguing against me, you're basically deying what these graphs prove to be the case. xoxoxo



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Old 01-17-2010, 01:06 PM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
Your presentation only makes the possibility of the opposite effect occurring with Obama's numbers that much more exciting.
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Old 01-17-2010, 01:10 PM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
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Your presentation only makes the possibility of the opposite effect occurring with Obama's numbers that much more exciting.
i sincerely hope that's the case.
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Old 01-17-2010, 01:20 PM
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i sincerely hope that's the case.

HEY, ya know even then. I mean, if he does actually create some bread from the lovely pile of shit he was handed, I'm sure he'll be accused of making a pact with the devil or something. Ya know, that's the way "they" work.

Trust me, I understand what it's like to be rightly fucked.
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:34 PM
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Re: From messiah to pariah
reread, misunderstood OP, didnt see the all-important "at this stage"

still, doesnt mean much.
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