Hope these new songs don't go on RiverRuns

[BrotherLovesDub]

Always Loved A Film, Strumpet, Between Stars, Diamond Jigsaw, Parc. Throw in You Do Scribble, Bamboo/Price collabs, a few ambient tracks and one or two others and you've got a killer album.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

a few ambient tracks and one or two others and you've got a killer album.

NO WAY! Theres plenty of ambient tracks on the Breaking and Entering soundtrack thankyou

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Mike

NO WAY! Theres plenty of ambient tracks on the Breaking and Entering soundtrack thankyou

yeah, but what Underworld album doesn't have ambient tracks? it's part of their formula.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

it's part of their formula.

yeah formula for me to skip

Ansum - yes. Monkey Wank - no thanks :P

[Champiness]

Oh this thread is just a breeding ground for arguments...
Surprised nobody's complained about this:

Originally Posted by Mike

yeah formula for me to skip

Ansum - yes. Monkey Wank - no thanks :P

yet. It's probably for the best that they haven't.
To say that Dirty0900 wants Underworld to make a "shit album" assumes that the albums he was using as examples of success were bad. Not once was that said, and it certainly wasn't the basis of the entire argument. Quite the opposite, in fact: by making albums full of singles that could easily get themselves "on air", those bands got them on the charts and therefore reached some level of popularity, which could then be used to build excitement for a future release. Underworld currently has a large back catalog of tracks like that, and releasing them together could help them "spark new life" into the group.
Now can we just put this to rest?

[dubman]

i know he never said those were shit albums, and i knew (obviously) that he wasnt telling underworld to make shit slbums. he even said flat out "whether you think theyre good or not"
however, i'm saying they're shit albums. so my understanding, based on the logic here, is regardless of quality they should follow the example of recent shitty albums and follow suit and provide single material and stuff that can be used for ridiculous purposes just to stay out there and popular.

which i'd be against.

Good albums get press

please try again.

[Champiness]

Originally Posted by dubman

i know he never said those were shit albums, and i knew (obviously) that he wasnt telling underworld to make shit slbums. he even said flat out "whether you think theyre good or not"
however, i'm saying they're shit albums, so my understanding, based on the logic here, is regardless of quality, they should follow the example of recent shitty albums and follow suit and provide single material and stuff that can be used for ridiculous purposes just to stay out there and popular.

which i'd be against.



please try again.

As much as I don't want to start a flamewar, I'd hardly call promotion a "ridiculous purpose". Whether you want to accept it or not, "Underworld" is Rick & Karl's profession as much as it is our lovely art project with intricate poetry celebrating everyday moments. They need money. That doesn't mean they compromise their image to do so. It means they use the music they think will get them the most popular in their current 200+ library to do so. Think of it this way: they're fighting for more fans. Just as I'm sure half the Dirts here now used Nuxx as their entryway into fandom, future generations of Dirts will need something to get them started.
I'm sorry. I honestly am. There's no good reason for me to be arguing. But there's not a reason for you to be either.

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Originally Posted by dubman

please try again.

Uhhh, top-tier albums by somewhat well-known artists do get lots of press. How many Radiohead songs do you hear on the radio or TV? When Sufjan Stevens sold out concerts across the country, was it because of the runaway success of "Jacksonville"? If they were bad albums, nobody would know about them today.

[holden]

Originally Posted by Mike

yeah formula for me to skip

Ansum - yes. Monkey Wank - no thanks :P

Uh, what the heck? Ansum = ambient. Monkey Wink, pretty much electro, sans beats. Put a beat on top (i've done it) and it's a regular Moaner 2.

[holden]

By the by, YDS, ALAF, and even Bamboo have been floating around in fairly finished forms for awhile now. yes, i know the argument in 2005-06 with the RiverRuns were that we'd heard snippets of the tracks on dirtyradio in 04, and for OWB, we got the Biro finally as Beautiful Burnout.
But in my view, the above tracks have served their purpose in the live arena and won't make it to an album or RR (if there is another). Just 2 cents.