Dirtyshirt

[Rog]

Can anybody let us know the state of play regarding these please......in fact pretty please?

[Future Proof]

Hold on, let me get a bag of popcorn really quick -- this should be an interesting read.

EDIT: Maybe I should take the horse by the reins and do the damn things myself. No harm in appealing for art as long as I'm not actually making them yet, so if anyone wants to send a me a .jpg, .eps or .ai file with suggested artwork they can do so at... producer9k2k5@yahoo.com. If yours is picked you have to be prepared to separate the artwork into composites, meaning each color = black, and on its own page. They have to line up, as well. If I have to put my graphics artist on the separation, it'll reflect in the price.

Let's just say that the Dirty gods decide that they have dragged their heels enough and decide that they have too much going on and would hand the thing off to me -- how much money would you be willing to spend for a Dirtyshirt?

[dubnobasswithme]

Originally Posted by Future Proof

how much money would you be willing to spend for a Dirtyshirt?

i'd pay ~$15-$20 for one, should it ever become reality

[holden]

If the proceeds went to some decent cause, be it website upkeep or something more philanthropic. Otherwise, i'd make my own for $3 (cost of high-quality tee from craftstore and one sheet of iron-on transfers). Could be the artist in me, but it's often cheaper and quicker to DIY. I refer you to my homemade shirt here:
http://www.myspace.com/geopainter

[stimpee]

I know Scott has something in the works but I'm not sure of the timeframe. He's a very busy man right now. In the meantime, there's nothing to stop anyone from doing unofficial t-shirts. I made a test shirt last summer for the Amsterdam UW gig and it worked out about €12. I'm sure there'd be a discount for more. They had a great selection of colours and sizes and brands.

[Future Proof]

Originally Posted by stimpee

I know Scott has something in the works but I'm not sure of the timeframe. He's a very busy man right now. In the meantime, there's nothing to stop anyone from doing unofficial t-shirts. I made a test shirt last summer for the Amsterdam UW gig and it worked out about €12. I'm sure there'd be a discount for more. They had a great selection of colours and sizes and brands.

We all are busy. The difference though is that when my business needs some more money, I go out and create revenue streams. I don't know, maybe my paradigm is off and Scott actually loves to pay for the site with his own cash with no outside help, but I think the push for the shirts is two-fold: 1. People want an official Dirty product and not their own hack and 2. they do want the money to go to the site. I know I do -- I've been trying to figure out a way to thank Scott tangibly since I really grasped how nice these forums are.

As for the shirts themselves, I know that Scott wants a quality product and that was a hang-up but there's only so many more times that can be jockeyed around before I start taking offense to that. Making custom apparel is what I do. It's how I pay my mortgage, it is my career and I make my money by delivering quality. Personally, I think it's really sad that the boat keeps getting missed, and missed, and missed. It's what I do, I own a shop (OWN!) and I'm a resource waiting to be tapped. All that has to happen is Scott needs to ask what my cost will be (materials, labor and shipping costs), I tell him, we decide a mark-up which determines his draw, and then we determine if he is going to sell them, if I handle selling them for him and if so, on what day of the month would he like to receive his monthly payout. That's all, it's that simple.

I would also like to rant about how much resentment I'd have if Scott would elect to go through an organization that is not directly affiliated with Dirty, and how hurt, betrayed and angry I'd feel if he demonstrated no desire to keep Dirty money within the Dirty community... but I won't. I will however say that no one out there is going to care about his product as much as one of his own members would and no one's going to deliver some insanely inexpensive product unless they're coming from China and its an order of 20,000 pieces. But that doesn't mean that if I offer Scott a price of $7.50/shirt and he sells them for $15 that he won't make a moderate amount of cash.

EDIT: I could always host the shirts on my store website's e-commerce section, which will be completed in about 2 weeks... http://www.thinkteamworks.com/index.html The website's not complete yet so don't fret about the lack of content, it's coming...

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by Future Proof

I would also like to rant about how much resentment I'd have if Scott would elect to go through an organization that is not directly affiliated with Dirty, and how hurt, betrayed and angry I'd feel if he demonstrated no desire to keep Dirty money within the Dirty community... but I won't.

I doubt that its been Scott's highest priority recently, granted. But you'll have to take up the issue with him personally rather than airing your issues here. I understand that you want to contribute but if in private dialogue with Scott, a decision is made not to use your services, then don't feel too down. It may be that he already has a source selected, maybe even the official Underworld T-shirt people (whoever they are).

I just made my own and was willing to make them for any Benelux dirts too. The design is the hardest part but if its just text its a piece of cake.

[Future Proof]

Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time he yelled at me, or I pissed him off...

I just think that with all of the inquiries, people here should know that it can happen with lightning speed. But I've sent the private e-mails, I've outlined plenty about how easy this can all be and I'm not particularly keen on talking about it here either, but at the same time... for all of the inquiries that pop up, I don't feel that it's only my responsibility to make correspondance.

If people want an official dirtyshirt they need to reach out and ask. I've done my part.

[stimpee]

I think people would be happy with any dirty shirt.

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Originally Posted by stimpee

I think people would be happy with any dirty shirt.

not mine; it stinks!