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Old 12-24-2005, 08:59 AM
stimpee
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
andy k - welcome to the forum. i dont agree with most of your post but thats besides the point.

i understand your frustration. however, 99.9% of the people have had no problems with the downloads, both the tokyo and osaka gigs have been broadcast on underworldlive.com and the Japanese exclusive track (the Paul Woolford remix) was also broadcast on Underworld's radio broadcast in full last weekend. The fans here have also managed to provide a method to separate the EP tracks into separate tracks without re-encoding.

Of course, I think we'd all like to be able to buy all this new material in the stores worldwide but that would require a lot more time and money and a for UW to sort out another distribution/record deal (probably). I don't think we would have got this new material if it wasn't being released in the method it is. As it is, we've got about 80mins of new material in the last 6 or 7 weeks. The Japanese market is massive for Underworld and I guess the JAL EP was an Electraglide promotional thing and the live CD an experiment that looks to have been successful with 7000 or so being sold at the Tokyo and Osaka gigs.

At least Underworld are releasing stuff. A lot of bands would just sit on this stuff and then release an album when they were ready. I can't think of any other band that has been so generous with its fans. We have been getting free stuff from underworldlive and radio shows from the band.

I'm sure I've said something like this in another post.. hmm. Anyway, I'm thankful. Maybe all these different methods of release are experiments. In the meantime, we are getting the tracks by fair means or foul. I think despite the frustrations, the majority of people here are just happy to have new Underworld to listen to.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:38 AM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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I can't think of any other band that has been so generous with its fans.
I can.. Pearl Jam - hands down..
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:06 PM
Jason Roth
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
Pearl Jam boycotting Ticketmaster = crap tours and crap venues for many years.

Anyway, the band has never been the same since Dave Abbruzzine, or whatever the drummers name was, left.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone,

look @ ebay for some special gems showing up shortly. the kind that won't rip you off.
OK, I've been patient & good. I haven't tried to download this from anywhere but I've been watching an Ebay auction slip far out of my price range. Is there any hope on obtaining a legal CD version of this for us mere non-Japanese mortals?
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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OK, I've been patient & good. I haven't tried to download this from anywhere but I've been watching an Ebay auction slip far out of my price range. Is there any hope on obtaining a legal CD version of this for us mere non-Japanese mortals?
my sentiments exactly. $170 for a cd... its fucking ridiculous.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:40 PM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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my sentiments exactly. $170 for a cd... its fucking ridiculous.
but it's a win-win for the band and the fans!
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:49 AM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
It'll be like the shoes - the first pair of UW shoes on eBay in my size went for a stupid amount of money - I waited it out and eventually got what I wanted for only 25% more than they were sold in the stores over here (and which was a darn site cheaper than some purists pay for a "regular" pair of Nike's or Adidas in the shops).

Thousands of these CDs were made - more and more will appear on eBay, the non-hardcore fans will get fed-up with silly bids and the prices will come down eventually.

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but it's a win-win for the band and the fans!
What amazes me though is this: as soon as these CDs were announced, a lot of whining and bitching went on in the forums about the Japanese fans getting it all and us getting nothing. I don't think it was any coincidence that the band decided to do something about it for the fans. But, despite their gallant but ultimately failed attempt to stream the Tokyo gig, and despite the fact that they actually DID stream the Osaka gig in full for us, (sound board, amazing quality), there are still people who seem to take it as some kind of personal insult that the CD has not been released in their country. Bizarre.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:14 AM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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What amazes me though is this: as soon as these CDs were announced, a lot of whining and bitching went on in the forums about the Japanese fans getting it all and us getting nothing. I don't think it was any coincidence that the band decided to do something about it for the fans. But, despite their gallant but ultimately failed attempt to stream the Tokyo gig, and despite the fact that they actually DID stream the Osaka gig in full for us, (sound board, amazing quality), there are still people who seem to take it as some kind of personal insult that the CD has not been released in their country. Bizarre.
Actually, the Tokyo gig was streamed also, right after the Lemonworld show a couple of weeks ago. But that was a one-off. So, two soundboard gigs for free. How about that?

BeautifulBurnout: some people will never be satisfied. they have to have everything available now and will moan until it is. some people will moan about the fact that they cant get something but give thanks for the stuff they have got. and finally there are those fans that wait patiently. after all, good things come to those who wait, and havent they already got enough new underworld to listen to?
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:40 AM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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Actually, the Tokyo gig was streamed also, right after the Lemonworld show a couple of weeks ago. But that was a one-off. So, two soundboard gigs for free. How about that?
Hah! I had no idea! And I was tuned in to the Lemonworld show too. Oh well.

/me removes cheese from ears
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:35 AM
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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What amazes me though is this: as soon as these CDs were announced, a lot of whining and bitching went on in the forums about the Japanese fans getting it all and us getting nothing.
I don't really mind that the Japanese fans (or anyone who went to the concert) getting something cool. What bugs me is these "fans" making $130+ on the cds later on. But I guess that's capitalism.
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