so why DIDN'T they tour?

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by stimpee

could be worse. the EP could be Japan iTunes only and the band might not have played any US dates this year. Um.. hang on, that sounds familiar.

seriously.

[holden]

Originally Posted by joethelion

And I don't get about CWU being not well-received... I say this b/c of a few things:
1) It Began in Africa came out on Sept.11th... which OF COURSE is gonna hurt sales for a single (at least I'm 90% sure on release date for that one)
2) They only released one proper single for the album after its release... and that was even after the tour was done! (Come With US EP) I remember that I bought the Japanese import of it, b/c I wanted live tracks after I saw them play
3) I only heard positive reports from their live shows

Weren't we discussing their latest effort "Push the Button" and it's tour/lack of US tour, not "Come With Us", which was released late 01-early 02?

Anyway, about Come With Us...you're mistaken about the singles. "It Began in Africa" was released well in advance of the album, yes. But "Star Guitar" and "Come With Us/The Test" were both released after the album. The last promo was "American EP", and that was probabaly after the tour.

[joethelion]

well - someone had said that the reason why no 'real' tour was b/c CWU was not well-received. I was just saying that CWU - for as much promotion as they did, did well... as least as far as I understood it, you know?

And I was just talking about US singles... Come With Us/The Test was not released here -> that was essentially the "AmericanEP". I'm not positive about Star Guitar.

Originally Posted by holden

Weren't we discussing their latest effort "Push the Button" and it's tour/lack of US tour, not "Come With Us", which was released late 01-early 02?

Anyway, about Come With Us...you're mistaken about the singles. "It Began in Africa" was released well in advance of the album, yes. But "Star Guitar" and "Come With Us/The Test" were both released after the album. The last promo was "American EP", and that was probabaly after the tour.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Cadevil

\\... Not sure I saw Bernard Sumner creep on stage for Out of Control in Oakland. I was waiting for it, and felt sort of ripped off when it didn't happen.

I was at this show, about 2 people from the front row. Bernard stood on the left side of the stage, out of view from anyone not on the right portion of the floor. He didn't perform but he did sip white wine in a plastic cup and nod approvingly. He stayed for Temptation/Star Guitar and Out of Control, then ducked out. i felt cheated too. Still got misty when the lyrics to Out of Control started swirling.

[myrrh]

XM Satelite is where it's at. I've been listening for a year now, and will never go back.

Mainstream FM radio sucks. I don't even think college radio is all that anymore. There are a few good things out there, like Matt's show , but I can't get that on the dial, and have to listen via the internet anyway.

NPR is about the only thing that does it for me on the regular FM.

[TheRev]

Originally Posted by joethelion

wait...

are you positive about that? I mean - the Ultra Music Festival is in Miami coinciding with the WMC...

and I would've hoped that someone on Dirty would have said something in advance too... or was that when dirty was down?

http://www.ultranewyork.com/

If you are in the New York area I suggest you use more than Dirty.org to stay informed of electronic music happenings.. Rhythmism.com is much better for that sort of thing.

[justy]

Well, I'm not sure I really thought "Push the Button" sucked... I just got bored with it pretty quickly. It's like Tom and Ed are really talented sleepwalkers. Thing is, we know what they can do when they're awake.

As for US radio, I'll stand by my assessment, especially as college radio is typically low-powered (I literally mean wattage here) and also sliced up into programming chunks. The interesting thing, of course, is that electronic music has been dominant on US radio for at least the last ten years: it's called hip-hop.

As David Byrne once said: lyrics are a way to get people to listen to music longer than they would normally.

[myrrh]

Originally Posted by justy

As David Byrne once said: lyrics are a way to get people to listen to music longer than they would normally.

This is a just sad commentary on the state of the people listening to the music. When you are listening to 'music' for the lyrics, what's the point in having music?

[Dirty0900]

Don't mean to piss you off furthur, but the show the other night was incredible. Absolutely pumped full of energy, it was non stop for two hours