Underworld live @ The Arches, Glasgow. Early 2006.

[Ally]

Originally Posted by DestroyRock&Roll

Got to remember Underworld have been out of the scene for a few years now and with no new material (thats been released) i would really not be surprized if it was a club event they are highly respected yes but their sales have slumped in particular the last album and the compilation one they did too never sold what was expected. I said when emerson left on these very forums that they should get darren price in with rick right away because karl and rick on their own were making to many trippy slow tracks emerson gave them the kick they needed and price can offer the same and think this is why rick has introduced him into the band to give them an edge again because the barras gig in 2002 was ok but it was nothing compared to the barras gig in 99 with emerson which was banging with visuals too.

Anyway i think a club night would give them more benefits promote them again to the club fraternity and masses again which is much, much needed for the boys. The die hards like us are always going to be here and buy their stuff but thats not enough they need to be recognised again for the scene they represent they need more dance fans buying their albums and gaining an interest again they hit a bit of a block in my opinion with a hundred days off the album was rushed and was in a way a sort of panic album to say that without emerson we will play on but the live shows at that era lacked visuals and character thus why they reverted to playing dirty epic and spoonman surfboy etc because a lot of the a hundred days off tracks could not cut it live in my opinion.

Rubbish. Case in point, Death In Vegas - dropped their label (akin to dropping a member), released an album with poor sales (Satan's Circus), latest musical offerings are "slow and trippy", lost a lot of financial muscle due to moving to 'own' label and subsequently show presentation (ie visuals) got toned right down.
Tour 2003 played Barrowlands, tour 2004 with above changes, played the Arches as a gig. I can't think of any time when one of the groups the size of Underworld played an Arches club night live.

[Ally]

Originally Posted by DestroyRock&Roll

they seldom play juanita or mix one track into another anymore

Are you for real!? Credibility gone.

[DestroyRock&Roll]

Originally Posted by Ally

Rubbish. Case in point, Death In Vegas - dropped their label (akin to dropping a member), released an album with poor sales (Satan's Circus), latest musical offerings are "slow and trippy", lost a lot of financial muscle due to moving to 'own' label and subsequently show presentation (ie visuals) got toned right down.
Tour 2003 played Barrowlands, tour 2004 with above changes, played the Arches as a gig. I can't think of any time when one of the groups the size of Underworld played an Arches club night live.

I don't ever remember mentioning death in vegas in my post but oh well....... i really think you are deluding yourself here seriously underworld are not as big as they once were e.g the time of beaucoup fish and you will find back at the start of the dance scene acts like the prodigy would play not only at the arches on a club night but also get this at the tunnel i have the flyer mate so dont tell me im lying ok. at the arches the prodigy had just released the experience album and when they played the tunnel that was in october 1993 when they had just released one love and were dropping tracks from the jilted generation album. Underworld playing a club night is not so ridiculous mate honestly.....they play at dance events such as homelands that in its self can be classed as a club event and its normally in the colours stage they play in.

and dude im not after your credibility if i wanted that i would agree with you and suck up your arse but i have my own views which im sticking too

[jose m]

fair point about the underworld sets being a bit samey in the uk for tha last few appearances.when they play at a festi or something like gg or gatecrasher the set seems to be mainly "the hits" when they play abroad at their own shows and they have longer on stage they do play loads of other material.what we need if some of their stand alone shows in the uk.
re milo its new and its fresh but i would compare them more with recent acts that have come and gone like the propellerheads,some of the swedish groups that i can't spell,air,roni size not musically but where they are at careerwise at present.milo has a long way to go before he can be compared to underworld(a string of hit albums,huge live rep,ground breaking inovation) but evryone starts somewhere and milo is much better than most of the acts around at the mo.
underworld are just about bangin? mmmmm maybe for some but for others its always been more than that.no problem if thats anyones view but led zep weren't just about whole lotta love,there was stairway to heaven !!!!!!!!

[DestroyRock&Roll]

Yeh i see what your saying bout its not all bout it being banging i know that but when they made kind of mellow tracks in the past they had an edge and a twist the recent stuff im not a fan of im sorry, but i cant wait to hear the new album when it finally gets released.

[big screen satellite]

Destroy, i think you seriously underestimate how popular UW are still...UW have headlined every event they have played at this year...

they are worldwide popular and only they and the Prodigy as dance acts are still going and still going strong...Underworld play gigs in Japan, all over Europe and not tiny venues...who are these people that go see them...fans...who've been waiting to see the best live dance band there is...some times a break is good it keeps things fresh...and makes the fans more eager...

AHDO may have not done that well, but people still know the big tracks, TMO is a massive tune played live...and to say they have been off the scene for so long is wrong - BS (the remixes came out in 2003), Anthology the same year...New Order have just released an album after 3 years, they didn't go back to small clubs to get support, they played Hyde Park (ok so New Order are a more widely popular band, but even so...fans don't forget...)

And also - UW have been keeping their hand in in other ways they were one of the Dance bands that John Peel (Britain's most popular DJ - R.I.P.), most respected - enough so that he asked them, just 1 year a go to sit in and take over his show...now that is profile raising...how many other dance combo's do you see playing 'new & different' music on Britain's largest radio station?

UW don't need to re-establish themselves in the market place...the first single when released will get top of the show plays on the national dance music shows, because of what UW have done and still do for dance music...they have the support and respect from almost all DJ's (this is testified by the numerous big name bootleg mixes of their tracks) (plus the numerous DJ's that remixed BS in 2003) (Judge Jules played a remix of Born Slippy just last week...and by all accounts fans go mad for these tracks still) Paul Wooldord, one of Britain's most up and coming Dj's is working on the new single (we believe), as is Pete Heller...

People know who Underworld are, and playing club gigs - although nice - isnt going to achieve anything, why play a 1200 capacity venue when you can sell out 5 times that...??

As much as i don't like big field venues like GG or Homelands, i think the numbers of people that actually stand and appreciate them when playing is testament to their popularity....people all over the the world are crying out to see UW, North, South America...Canada, Japan, East / West Europe, Ireland, Britain...and will sell out most dates on any forthcoming tours...

and one final thing UW have to play a mixture of new and old in any gig, they have started playing new material, new versions of old songs (mixing them in as well) and some classics that people always want to hear...you are not gonna get UW playing a gig of entirely new tunes...

UW are unique and i'd personally be surprised to see them play a small club venue to get back into things...they are already playing big venues, generating support, they don't need to go back to the old days...those days of dance music are gone....

[Icke]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

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well said. However;

Underworld may not NEED support by playing 'small' venues, it is very possible that they enjoy playing that kind of gig.

They played Heineken Music Hall last summer which has a capacity of around 4500 people and I suppose that it was quite packed, although I don't remember it selling out.

Now Underworld will play at 013, which has a maximum capacity of 2200 people…

[lloyd]

the HMH was sold out, ask the polish people that wanted a ticket

[Icke]

Originally Posted by lloyd

the HMH was sold out, ask the polish people that wanted a ticket

wow , how bad it must suck when you come from poland to the netherlands just to see UW, and then find out that there are no more tickets available.

[lloyd]

euh, no.
They hunted a few tickets down through ebay/marktplaats till they had enough. They where with 10+ people. 13 hour traindrive..