Bungalow with Stairs album

[ThingInABook]

Originally Posted by lemonjelly

I think the problem is a uwlive/paypal interface type problem.

yeah, i thought it could be something like that. did some research (lol google) and it has to do with a paypal API problem. since it gets sold out quickly i asked for help from someone here (TheBang bought a copy for me - and my paypal is actually working, we did a test already, i just need to pay him )

but i still want some things from the store... i will email sales instead. thanks for the advice

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Originally Posted by froopy seal

As much as I respect Reznor's progressive approach, to me digital-only releases still aren't as valuable, as significant, as 'beautiful' as physical copies. Even if they comprise tons of additional photos and stuff. That's why I'm hardly ever psyched by an Underworld release if it's digital-only.

With this opinion, I'm probably part of the analogue dinosaurs who will die out, by the by. But I have a feeling that there's still a decent share of music-lovers out there who think along the same lines, and who value CD + artwork over instant availability.

I love that Underworld take an effort in producing quality physical releases, whilst accepting that they have to go with the flow of the great digital data stream. And, of course, I prefer being able to purchase a Bungalow download instead of not having it at all.

I understand that. But honestly I wonder why stuff like this is not released digitally. You can still have a physical copy, just give me the option to pay whatever to download it. I don't want an answer of "this is the way they choose to release their art", I want to know why. I respect that if they only want it on disc but this is just music for an installation, I don't really understand keeping that physical from an artistic perspective. I don't know if they necessarily lose anything by releasing it in mp3 form.

Right now the price with postage is $62. As much as I love UW that's just a really steep price for something that is not even really an album proper. I'd gladly fork over $20 or maybe more for a digital copy. If they don't offer it I'll probably just torrent it like the Live in Tokyo set that I so desperately wanted on CD. When the Riverruns came out, I was really happy with that and was hoping for the beginning of something big. It's hard to believe that five years later they are still releasing stuff on very expensive and limited discs. I don't want to whine about it, I'm just curious as to why they are doing it this way. Maybe a digital release will come along next week and I'll just shut my trap. Who knows.

[lemonjelly]

Originally Posted by ThingInABook

yeah, i thought it could be something like that. did some research (lol google) and it has to do with a paypal API problem. since it gets sold out quickly i asked for help from someone here (TheBang bought a copy for me - and my paypal is actually working, we did a test already, i just need to pay him )

but i still want some things from the store... i will email sales instead. thanks for the advice

I'll be honest, I was waffling. I know little about pc's, & less about the web. In example, I still cannot fathom what rtsr is, or where it is... But I read about it & get interested.

I tried making a purchase, & got some wierd message from paypal. As the cd does sell out quick, I emailed in a vain hope. It took a day for uwlive to get back to me, but can't complain at all with their reply & service.

However this also suggests that some more catalogues/cd's still remain.

[lowbit]

Originally Posted by froopy seal

As much as I respect Reznor's progressive approach, to me digital-only releases still aren't as valuable, as significant, as 'beautiful' as physical copies. Even if they comprise tons of additional photos and stuff. That's why I'm hardly ever psyched by an Underworld release if it's digital-only.

I really loved Riverrun, but I'm with you on wanting a physical release – digital just doesn't have the same feel (uh...literally, I guess ) and brings with it its own unique set of problems.

However I wasn't just talking about Reznor's digital output; he's also been building and fine-tuning mechanism for getting concert tickets and physical media to fans while discouraging profiteering, and from all appearances they seem to be working. Even if you're not at all a NIN fan (and I'm not sure I am any more), it's worth keep an occasional eye on what he's up to, if only to see some examples of what the music industry can be doing right with technology and the Internet.

[the mongoose]

more copies are now available for purchase in the store

[BrotherLovesDub]

[DaddyAdv]

Got my copy a few days ago,
had a quick listen and liked it.

[Dirty0900]

Very nice package and music. Price is just about right imo.

[purlieu]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

I have more money than you, hahahahahahahahaha.

End of conversation here.

Back to people who are willing to enter into an actual discussion, can anyone describe the catalogue? Is it worth the £30 along with the disc? Is it on special paper, or is it like a magazine? How many pages? Obviously the lack of anybody actually mentioning it so far shows how essential it actually is (and how the band have yet again misjudged what fans actually want), but I'm curious whether it's worth the cash or if the whole thing is a massive pocket filler for the band.

I'd agree with the comments re: Trent Reznor, he actually seems to care about getting music to his fans in all ways, catering for collectors but also making sure that people who aren't able to fork out a hefty amount of money get the same musical content. It's hard not to respect what he does, which is something I can't say for what's happening in the UWLive camp these days, and that's a shame. Underworld are one of my absolute favourite bands, and I'd really like a copy of Bungalow With Stairs, because from all reports it seems like the kind of album I'd really enjoy. However, given the ridiculous price, I and many others cannot afford to buy it, and that is nothing more than letting fans down, which is shoddy behaviour.

When they did the Riverruns, it seemed like they were taking advantage of new media, but with all the criticisms of this, how the singles have been packaged and spread out over various sites, having to pay to remix Bird 1 (there's another lesson they could take from Reznor) and the whole Barking Deluxe box fiasco, they really seem like they're fumbling around in the dark. I hope they've been reading the board over the past few months, because if nothing else they might be able to learn something from all the fans they've pissed off.

[BrotherLovesDub]

So goods should be priced according to your budget? I'll alert the world markets.