Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by Sean

And incidentally, you KNOW you're pushing the boundaries of rationality when you inspire a focused, clear point out of jOHN! Well done!

Careful Mr. sean, you'd be surprised how easy it would be for one to point out the areas where YOUR rational has been wrong.

Trust me, I never lie where it matters.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

Careful Mr. sean, you'd be surprised how easy it would be for one to point out the areas where YOUR rational has been wrong.

Trust me, I never lie where it matters.

Oooooooo.....I'll be very very careful.

Have at it any time you'd like jOHN.

[Deckard]

Perhaps these couple of links from the Daily Dish should have gone in the healthcare thread, but it's more about the 'strange anger' I guess:

Not Racism; Projection

Not Racism; Projection? Ctd.

They're only brief so I won't pull out quotes beyond the closing comment from Sullivan:

I should say I'm not endorsing this view by publishing it; I think the opposition to healthcare reform is perfectly legitimate and may well be an entirely logical position for many enraged at Obama. But the rage itself, the spluttering ire directed at this young president who inherited one of the worst legacies in modern times? I can't explain it myself.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Perhaps these couple of links from the Daily Dish should have gone in the healthcare thread, but it's more about the 'strange anger' I guess:

Not Racism; Projection

Not Racism; Projection? Ctd.

They're only brief so I won't pull out quotes beyond the closing comment from Sullivan:

Very interesting theories. They certainly sound realistically possible.

[Strangelet]

its a great explanation for why these knuckleheads toggle on the fly between Obama as Stalin and Obama as Hitler. It also explains the emotional satisfaction of using enemies of american culture from pop fiction like Obama as The Joker, It also pretty much explains Glenn Beck's blubbering white ass as a movement participant. If there's a segment of the american population who's got the furthest to fall when faced with the reality of American crimes, foreign and domestic, its mormon white suburbia.

But it doesn't lay enough blame on Glenn Beck as a movement demagogue. It would be interesting to research the attitudes of the great unwashed during the Carter administration. Because I know that Clinton was just as hated as Obama, and vilified in the same fashion by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, g gordon liddy, michael reagan, etc. A lot of factors muted the vitriol, but I remember plainly that corporate conservatives didn't just disagree with Clinton, they demonized him on similar emotional pleas and frothing abuse. To the point where I was happy Bush got elected so the lot of them might just STFU.

I guess I'm saying that what I personally see happening is pyschological, but of a definite religious bent. The same psychological factors that shape a new religiion and its members seem to be at play in the authority driven movements against Obama. They have a creed. They have charismatic hero personalities. They have an eschatology. They have a body of myths about themselves and the world. They definitely have what they consider to be a code of ethics, and I think they are/will be more and more willing to sacrifice humanist principles to follow their ethics.

In this sense they should be treated as a radical political cult, not unlike the nazis.

[cured]

BEHOLD! The tea party protesters take to DC!

[Strangelet]

In this sense they should be treated as a radical political cult

Originally Posted by cured

BEHOLD! The tea party protesters take to DC!

case rested. Interesting to see the mysticism of conspiracy theories, political allegiance, and christianity blending like stomach acid and street tacos to form an vomit of new religious matter

I would be more concerned if they didn't look like they were between visits to sizzler steakhouse.

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

...blending like stomach acid and street tacos to form an vomit of new religious matter

I would be more concerned if they didn't look like they were between visits to sizzler steakhouse.

Haha genius!
(you should be on TV )

Interesting that you say Clinton was just as hated. I didn't really pick up on it at the time. Small mercies that blogs and youtube weren't around back then.

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Interesting that you say Clinton was just as hated. I didn't really pick up on it at the time.

it seeeeeemed that way. I don't know how you can objectively measure it. There are some differences of course. Clinton enjoyed a big economic boom and had a republican congress to mollify the butt hurt conservatives. So things were able to appear smoother.

However, Rush Limbaugh already had a rapt audience of gloomy nodders getting their marching orders daily, Ken Starr had the independent council seeking every angle from paula jones to vince foster as ways to bring down the clintons. And the neo con movement admit themselves that their new brand of conservatism was a response to the clinton era and what they deemed to be the straying of american foreign character.

But bottom line, yeah, my impression is that it isn't specifically obama. the religious right will never be willing to compromise no matter how solidly they are demoted to the kids table.

[dubman]

anyone in this thread mention yet how people hate being wrong and all the 'secret muslim' crap from before november has just found a new avenue along with giving regular cons an excuse to get pissy without it looking like racism?

people with batshit opinions form one or five or ten years ago dont go away, they just restructure the same thing.