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  #81  
Old 10-01-2008, 07:20 PM
Troy McClure
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Re: Crunch
Vote is going on now in Senate. I'm watching on CSpan online. Obama, Biden and McCain all voted 'yes'. Passed 74 - 25.

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Old 10-01-2008, 07:35 PM
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Re: Crunch
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Vote is going on now in Senate. I'm watching on CSpan online. Obama, Biden and McCain all voted 'yes'. Passed 74 - 25.

Jason
Well, if McCain voted, wouldn't that count for more than the other senator's votes. I mean, he is the one who is going to fix this thing isn't he?

He does have like 9 houses and 13 cars. Plus his wife's dress at the RNC cost almost as much a the president's yearly salary. Yeah, old gramps McCain's vote should count more because he's got more "invested" in the market than 90% of America.

If he votes yes, then it should be a done deal. Too bad Palin can't vote in this. It's not cause she's the Gov. of Alaska. It's because she can't spell vote.

Seriously, I hope this does pass though. I'm stoked that the taxes taken out of my hard earned check can bailout a bunch of Wall Street Suits. I mean, I didn't need that money to care for my sick child or anything.
And don't worry Wall Street. I'm getting a good raise soon, so you'll have extra from me when you fuck up again next year!

Cheers!
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: Crunch
Holy shit.

Stewart was pissed last night.

Kill Bill Vol 1
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"Listen up Congress, get the fuck back to work!"

hahaha
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  #84  
Old 10-01-2008, 08:35 PM
jOHN rODRIGUEZ
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Re: Crunch
Come on, I'm bored.

Great Link. I'm totally bored again.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: Crunch
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. . . fuck global capitalism
take a moment to just think about this statement and the arena in which it was posted.


Do you see the ridiculousness yet??? (not trying to be condescending, really. . . .)


Ok. . here it is:

This is a forum dedicated to Underworld. A group of commercial artists that use technology developed through global capitalism. Who have a commercial art enterprise called Tomato that makes a shitload* of money creating promotional material for global capitalists.

If it wasn't for global capitalism there would be no underworld.
We wouldn't be here discussing this.

Global Capitalism is great. Unfortunately it only takes a few obnoxious drunks to ruin the party for everyone, but we have to keep the party going. Problem is, the bouncers have been rolling with the club kids and have shirked their responsibilites. We cant shut the party down, we need new bouncers.


*shitload used loosely here

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Old 10-02-2008, 03:12 AM
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Re: Crunch
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Do you see the ridiculousness yet??? (not trying to be condescending, really. . . .)


If it wasn't for global capitalism there would be no underworld.
We wouldn't be here discussing this.

So because i am against global capitalism then i'm ridiculous????? you and your ilk are waaay too smug and think that the making of money is everything.......well it fuckin isn't.

As for the second part, if there were no global capitalism underworld would still exist but in a different form and the world's poor wouldn't have been exploited to the fuckin hilt by you (and my) countries greedy corporate bastards....... if that's ridiculous in your view then i feel sorry for you. take off your blinkers and see the real mess the world is in......
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:41 AM
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Re: Crunch
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So because i am against global capitalism then i'm ridiculous?????
No... you're ridiculous 'cause you cant fucking read that I said the statement was ridiculous.

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you and your ilk are waaay too smug and think that the making of money is everything.......well it fuckin isn't.
No it's not everything. It's a means to an end.

Putting my daughter through college.
Paying for my interferon/ribavirin cocktail
That's important.

Talk about fucking smug, you should be ashamed of yourself!

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if there were no global capitalism underworld would still exist but in a different form
This may be true, but they wouldn't have piece of crap macs to make their music on.
They wouldn't have planes to tour with.
They wouldn't have hotels to stay in.
They wouldn't have festivals to play at.
We'd be using smoke signals to say this to each other.

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and the world's poor wouldn't have been exploited to the fuckin hilt by you (and my) countries greedy corporate bastards.
The poor would be exploited despite the economic system as the evil greed would just find different ways to do it. The problem is greed not capitalism.

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if that's ridiculous in your view then i feel sorry for you. take off your blinkers and see the real mess the world is in......
Don't be alarmed by the loud pop. . .
its just your head. . .
Coming out of your ass

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Old 10-02-2008, 05:21 AM
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Re: Crunch
I'm with Bas on this. Just because people are taking advantage of the system doesn't mean the system itself is to blame. We have capitalism to thank for our way of life and standard of living (even though obviously these have their dark sides as well). The problem is that governments are trying to protect special interests and their big-money friends, thus undermining the system.

Governments bailing out failing companies are essentially saying "hey it's ok to fuck up. As long as you're "important" enough we'll just use the taxpayers money to help you out". That's not a fair and free market, nor is it capitalism.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:46 AM
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Re: Crunch
bas_i_am, I actually agree more with you on this too. But you've been nasty about two things I love: Macs, and Rog (in the platonic sense, Rog ). So I'm gonna hold back from saying 'good post'. ;P

For my part, it's not about being for or against capitalism - but how much fairness and equality we want to cede to it, which I think is what you're saying anyway. I was recently listening to a discussion about the economic crisis in Japan last decade and how they operate a somewhat less dog-eat-dog version of capitalism than the US and UK. Another example would be Islamic banking which complies with Sharia Law - not something I endorse in its entirety (obviously), but there are aspects such as never charging interest (making money from money), and 'ethical' investment that show commerce can be practised in different and arguably more ethical ways if people want it to.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:44 AM
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Re: Crunch
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Putting my daughter through college.
Paying for my interferon/ribavirin cocktail
That's important.

Talk about fucking smug, you should be ashamed of yourself!
Well, you are lucky your daughter is able to go to college and you can buy the drugs you mention, the majority of the people in this world don't have the fuckin choice! i am NOT ashamed of myself in any way.......

maybe global capitalism has given us underworld but its also given us Paris fuckin Hilton and the like, the cult of celebrity, overhyped sports stars, hollywood and all that gross excess, your own countrymen making a fuckin fortune over the collapse of banks that they themselves instigated, poor countries being exploited for everything, blahdeblahdeblah....i could go on for hours but i won't bother cause i'm supposed to be the one with my head up my arse............
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