12x12" More New Order...Vinyl exclusives...

[big screen satellite]

Coming at the end of Feb, New Order are releasing 12 x 12”

which are to be released on New State Records, in conjunction with Warners

all 12 twelve inch singles are detailed below

Cat no: nser007 5050072401163
Waiting For A Sirens Call
A Planet Funk Remix 7.25
B Asle Dub 9.19

Cat no: nser008 5050072401262
Someone Like You
A James Holden Heavy Dub 10.00
B Someone Like You Funk D’Void Remix 9.56

Cat no: nser009 5050072401361
A Confusion - Koma & Bones Remix 8.55
B Crystal - Lee Coombs Remix 8.44

Cat no: nser010 5050072401460
A Confusion - Pump Panel Reconstruction 10.11
B1 Everything’s Gone Green - Dave Clarke Remix 5.12
B2 Waiting For A Sirens Call - Filterheadz Remix 7.18

Cat no: nser011 5050072401569
A Jetstream - Phela Vocal Remix 8.59
B Someone Like You - Future Shock Vocal 8.04

Cat no: nser012 5050072401668
A1 Krafty - Riton Remix 6.54
A2 Jetstream - Tom Neville Dub 6.37
B1 Krafty - The Glimmers Dub 5.53

Cat no: nser014 5050072401767
A We’re Here To Stay - Thee Extended Glitz Mix 8.09
B Jetstream - Jacques Lu Cont Dub 8.31

Cat no: nser015 5050072401866
A1 Bizarre Love Triangle - Shep Pettibone Remix 6.43
A2 Round & Round - Kevin Saunderson Remix 7.11
B1 True Faith - Shep Pettibone Remix 9.02
B2 Fine Time - Steve ‘Silk’ Hurley Remix 9.18

Cat no: nser016 5050072401965
A1 True Faith - King Roc Remix 8.18
B1 Regret - Tocadisco Remix 6.05
B2 Regret - Tocadisco Dub 5.44

Cat no: nser017 5050072402061
A Blue Monday - Original 88 Version 7.28
B Blue Monday - Hardfloor Remix 8:35

Cat no: nser018 5050072402160
A1 Bizarre Love Triangle - Richard X Remix 7.04
A2 Jetstream - Arthur Baker Remix 7.00
B1 Shellshock - John Robie Remix 6.30
B2 Thieves Like Us - 12” Extended Mix 6.52

Cat no: nser019 5050072402269
A1 Subculture - Dub Vulture Mix 7.59
B1 State Of The Nation - Shame Of The Nation Mix 8.02
B2 I Told You So - Stuart Price’s Remix 5.25

of these tracklistings, below are exclusive 'unreleased' tracks

Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Planet Funk Remix)
Waiting For A Sirens Call (Asle Dub)
Waiting For A Sirens Call (Filterheadz Remix)
Jetstream (Phela Vocal Remix)
True Faith (King Roc Remix)
Regret (Tocadisco Remix)
Regret (Tocadisco Dub)
I Told You So (Stuart Price’s Remix)

it is also possible that the hurely mix is actually a longer edit of Fine Time, but i'm not an expert on this, but this is what i've heard...

there is no actual release date, price of these...whether they are a one off set or individual singles...either way they are currently detailed as vinyl only 12"...

more news i'll let you know

Mattval1

[big screen satellite]

as an aside to this 12 x 12" Vinyl release, New Order are also to release the fourth Single from WFTSC on Feb 20th, Turn - this is different to the US release which is 'Guilt is a Useless Emotion' (a much better track, sadly) (not sure when this comes / came out - as i've seen promo's on ebay already)

it is quite possible that the Turn single & releated releases will feature some of these 'exclusive' vinyl only tracks...but this is NOT confirmed

I know for sure that the (Pete Heller) Phela Vocal Mix of Jetstream is available on exclusively ITunes, as i bought it...not sure if its still there...and don;t think it will be on the Turn single...

[undarrenworld]

Yes, Guilt is much better than Turn.
So in USA will be released Guilt instead of Turn?

These 12" looks very good, kinda expensive to get all of em.
Some are re-issues of old factory records.

I like the idea that what NO does live in 2005, to mix the old JD tracks with the new ones.
The same is with these 12". The old songs is really known, except some mixes.
This seems to be more DJ release.
(Im sure that Hooky like the idea of these 12"s)

The question is if the old tracks like... Blue Monday 88 will be remastered or no. For someone who knows very well the old songs like this is the new 12" useful.
So I get only some of these 12" inches...But then I will have a hole in the collection...ehgghh I hate uncomplete collection.

It is the same like WFTSC single 7" inch. That was on vinyl and not on CD, but promo was on CD. So if someone want to get these mixes in digital quality, must look for the promo...

EDIT: I love vinyls...

[undarrenworld]

I have this:
Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Planet Funk Remix)

And its the best WFTSC remix i ever heard.
I love to have this one on 12".

This mix is much better than
Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Planet Funk Dub)

It was good choice to pick the remix one and not dub.



But New Order have not always good choice what to release...

1) 1989 Instead of Vanishing Point was released Fine Time
(I love Vanishing Point so much, Im tired of Fine Time)
Technique is amazing album and its sad that Vanishing Point wasnt released...

2) 2005 Guilt vs. Turn
Why to release Guilt?
a) Guilt is much better track than Turn
b) Guilt mixes from the promo are amazing.

EDIT: So...Turn with the unheard remixes cant beat Guilt...

[joethelion]

I don't think that "Guilt..." will be released instead of "Turn"...

I mean - as "Guilt is A Useless Emotion" I think has already been released in the US. Although, I think it was only as iTunes and limited Promo's... not as a proper single. Honsetly, most of the remixes are not worth writting home about, know what I mean?

The best mixes from their current period seem to be the ones off the WFTSC 7" releases...

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by joethelion

I don't think that "Guilt..." will be released instead of "Turn"...

I mean - as "Guilt is A Useless Emotion" I think has already been released in the US. Although, I think it was only as iTunes and limited Promo's... not as a proper single. Honsetly, most of the remixes are not worth writting home about, know what I mean?

The best mixes from their current period seem to be the ones off the WFTSC 7" releases...

afaik, Turn will NOT be released in the US...and Guilt WON'T be released in the UK...

harsh burt thats how i understand it...

[undarrenworld]

Originally Posted by joethelion

I mean - as "Guilt is A Useless Emotion" I think has already been released in the US. Although, I think it was only as iTunes and limited Promo's... not as a proper single. Honsetly, most of the remixes are not worth writting home about, know what I mean?

The best mixes from their current period seem to be the ones off the WFTSC 7" releases...

Yes Guilt have own mixes on the promo. But on Singles was released Turn, so it means that Turn will be next single. My point was, that these Guilt mixes are great, I heard them, so I dont understand why in UK will be released Turn. I cant imagine better remixes than those who were used on Guilt promo. Turn dont have chance and its gonna be a weakest single on the album. Maybe some b sides will take Turn higher, but its a shame that Guilt wasnt released, with artwork, etc.

Im not sure if I got u right with this:

Honsetly, most of the remixes are not worth writting home about, know what I mean?

And yes WFTSC 7" releases are fantastic. No question about it.
I love the secret machines mix amazing.

[big screen satellite]

more news....

apparently the scheduled date for release of Turn has been postponed...Warners don't seem to know whats going on, but as no list of remixes has appeared i don't expect to see this release at all now, but its still scheduled not yet pulled

Considering it will be a very late release to promote an album that is almost 1 year old...and news has it that the next album is pretty ready to go soon, so maybe thats it for UK single releases, what with the 12X12" set coming out...perhaps thats it for singles...

who knows

more news as i grab it....

[joethelion]

so wait... neither are going to be released? or just the 12x12" 's?


btw - what's up with the NO online people actually bitching about the tracks being released on vinyl? I mean COME ON! kinda why I don't post on their MB, that and well - I don't have the time to go to tons of different MB's

but yea - I'd agree that this is really late to be releasing a single for an album... unless it's just gonna be like a special ep, you know?

on top of that "Turn" would've been their fifth* single off an album, and as you said - the follow up album's ready. I think they even said it was completed when "Waiting For The Sirens' Call" was released (like same deal as Kid A/ Amnesiac with Radiohead)

*fifth if you want to include "Guilt..." but that's pretty much to your own definition of a single release, you know?

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by joethelion

so wait... neither are going to be released? or just the 12x12" 's?

btw - what's up with the NO online people actually bitching about the tracks being released on vinyl? I mean COME ON! kinda why I don't post on their MB, that and well - I don't have the time to go to tons of different MB's

yeah I've posted a few times there recently...

New Order basically created the 12" as a format, and now fans are bitching that they are releasing stuff they basically have already, on vinyl again...come on NO fans...stop moaning, vinyl sales are on the rise and NO are just recognising that fact...i can't believe some have thrown out their record players...what did they stop buying vinyl and throw away their players as soon as New Order went CD???

anyway, its the US fans who are most up in arms, as its a UK only release...

from what i can tell...12x12" is still go for the end of Feb...

Turn will NOT be released as scheduled, but may be later.

how i read it - it won't be released at all....i don't think WFTSC was that well received as a single...especially the way they released it (only on 7" vinyl!).

Guilt was scheduled for US release, but i'm not sure its actually come out fully yet, i think it was promo only, i doubt that will see a full release either...if its not out yet.

So we've had Krafty (full UK & US release), Jetstream (full UK & US release), WFTSC (odd format UK, partial format US release), Guilt (US promo only release) & Turn (scheduled UK release) plus the 12 x 12" set (UK only release)

to be honest i think Warners & London's handling of this project is bollocks...and they didn't have a plan to start with and seem to be making it up as they go along, although its not unusual in NO's long history to be a bit blase about their releases....look at the loses they made on Blue Monday!