fuck israel

bas_I_am · #1 05-31-2010, 02:11 AM

the equivalent of commandeering a red cross ship

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Strangelet · #2 05-31-2010, 02:56 AM

world forum R.I.P.

Rog · #3 05-31-2010, 12:29 PM

oh, so you were there then and saw what happened?

i do believe that both sides claim the other started the trouble and its not clear what happened yet........

stimpee · #4 05-31-2010, 12:57 PM

Hey! Israel dosent take shit from ANYONE and that includes peaceful unarmed aid ships!

Israel: Making the USA look good since 1947.

bas_I_am · #5 05-31-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee

Hey! Israel dosent take shit from ANYONE and that includes peaceful unarmed aid ships!

Israel: Making the USA look good since 1947.

True that!

King of Snake · #6 05-31-2010, 11:52 PM

the people trying to beat the commandos into a pulp with sticks as soon as they boarded didn't look exactly peaceful to me.
Probably not a good idea to try and beat armed-to-the-teeth commandos with sticks in the first place.

//\/\/ · #7 06-01-2010, 07:15 AM

erm, because it could have unloaded safely and the aid could have got through - isn't that the point? or was the point just to provoke a reaction? they knew there was a blockade, and they knew israel would enforce it. so in my mind, getting aid through was pretty fucking low on the List Of Things We Hope To Acheive In This.

shit for the inhabitants of gaza, who go on being pawns in this shitty game. as i say - it's a win for hamas and it's a win for the israeli right; both of whom are claiming justification and the high moral ground.

but mr and mrs wanting-aid-in-gaza? fucked over once again. front and back.

and as for the ship being a 'red crescent ship' - you need to run a fact check as they had nothing to do with this: Free Gaza and the IHH were the organisers.

Rog · #8 06-01-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by //\/\/

erm, because it could have unloaded safely and the aid could have got through - isn't that the point? or was the point just to provoke a reaction? they knew there was a blockade, and they knew israel would enforce it. so in my mind, getting aid through was pretty fucking low on the List Of Things We Hope To Acheive In This.

shit for the inhabitants of gaza, who go on being pawns in this shitty game. as i say - it's a win for hamas and it's a win for the israeli right; both of whom are claiming justification and the high moral ground.

but mr and mrs wanting-aid-in-gaza? fucked over once again. front and back.

and as for the ship being a 'red crescent ship' - you need to run a fact check as they had nothing to do with this: Free Gaza and the IHH were the organisers.

totally agree

Sean · #9 06-04-2010, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/

erm, because it could have unloaded safely and the aid could have got through - isn't that the point? or was the point just to provoke a reaction? they knew there was a blockade, and they knew israel would enforce it. so in my mind, getting aid through was pretty fucking low on the List Of Things We Hope To Acheive In This.

shit for the inhabitants of gaza, who go on being pawns in this shitty game. as i say - it's a win for hamas and it's a win for the israeli right; both of whom are claiming justification and the high moral ground.

but mr and mrs wanting-aid-in-gaza? fucked over once again. front and back.

and as for the ship being a 'red crescent ship' - you need to run a fact check as they had nothing to do with this: Free Gaza and the IHH were the organisers.

Well said.

cured · #10 06-01-2010, 05:46 PM

I don't know, I think I'd be pretty pissed if Israel was being this anal about what the Palestinians could have.

It appears to me the flotilla defiantly bypassed the blockade but they were still in international waters when they were boarded. They have the right to defend themselves. I wouldn't have taken arms, myself, but sending a bunch of dudes down a line and onto a ship isn't exactly a peace offering, either. The fault ultimately falls on Israel for sending armed men onto a boat, where a fight broke out, where Israel needed to use live fire to defend themselves. The flotilla crew were defiant but it was Israel that picked the fight.

Obama is kind of stuck here. Side with the Turks, who are the US' plan B when it comes to having a partner in Arab relations? Or side with Israel, again, and basically flush all that Arab goodwill-building down the toilet? Not surprisingly, the US is stuck in the middle for the time being.