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Old 11-05-2008, 10:17 AM
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Obama - perspectives
I have quite a bit to say about this election but, for now, I thought I'd drop an interesting note from a conservative who had this to say about Obama's tenure at the Harvard Law Review:

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I think Barack took 10 times as much grief from those on the left on the Review as from those of us on the right. And the reason was, I think there was an expectation among those editors on the left that he would affirmatively use the modest powers of his position to advance the cause, whatever that was. They thought, you know, finally there's an African American president of the Harvard Law Review; it's our turn, and he should aggressively use this position, and his authority and his bully pulpit to advance the political or philosophical causes that we all believe in. And Barack was reluctant to do that.
It's not that he was out of sympathy with their views, but his first and foremost goal, it always seemed to me, was to put out a first-rate publication. And he was not going to let politics or ideology get in the way of doing that ...
He had some discretion as president to exercise an element of choice for certain of the positions on the masthead; it wasn't wide discretion, but he had some. And I think a lot of the minority editors on the Review expected him to use that discretion to the maximum extent possible to empower them. To put them in leadership positions, to burnish their resumes, and to give them a chance to help him and help guide the Review. He didn't do that. He declined to exercise that discretion to disrupt the results of votes or of tests that were taken by various people to assess their fitness for leadership positions.
He was unwilling to undermine, based on the way I viewed it, meritocratic outcomes or democratic outcomes in order to advance a racial agenda. That earned him a lot of recrimination and criticism from some on the left, particularly some of the minority editors of the Review. ... It confirmed the hope that I and others had had at the time of the election that he would basically be an honest broker, that he would not let ideology or politics blind him to the enduring institutional interests of the Review. It told me that he valued the success of his own presidency of the Review above scoring political points of currying favor with his political supporters.
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There's more from others who remember the Harvard Law Review days here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...a/harvard.html
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:31 AM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
I have already said enough, particularly as I didn't even get to vote...

A final word though, here in The Stranger, a Seattle paper:

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I ride the 7 bus to work those mornings I can’t face my bicycle. It comes up from south Seattle and traverses rich and poor neighborhoods, the International District, Pioneer square and Downtown. Usually, it is a hateful, loud, messy conglomeration of tired people. This morning, an older black man sat with a grin on his face. He was dressed for construction work. Out of the blue, he shouted, “YES, we can!” It was completely infectious- people responded in a chorus of “Yes, we can,” and there was clapping, and there were grins, ear to ear. And we rode on together.

I'm running out of kleenex.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
that's great.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again

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VIENNA, Austria – She was a stranger, and she kissed me. Just for being an American.

It happened on the bus on my way to work Wednesday morning, a few hours after compatriots clamoring for change swept Barack Obama to his historic victory. I was on the phone, and the 20-something Austrian woman seated in front of me overheard me speaking English.

Without a word, she turned, pecked me on the cheek and stepped off at the next stop.

Nothing was said, but the message was clear: Today, we are all Americans.

For longtime U.S. expatriates like me — someone far more accustomed to being targeted over unpopular policies, for having my very Americanness publicly assailed — it feels like an extraordinary turnabout.

Like a long journey over a very bumpy road has abruptly come to an end.

And it's not just me.

An American colleague in Egypt says several people came up to her on the streets of Cairo and said: "America, hooray!" Others, including strangers, expressed congratulations with a smile and a hand over their hearts.

Another colleague, in Amman, says Jordanians stopped her on the street and that several women described how they wept with joy.
Brilliant.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
I'm going to Inauguration in two months
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
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I'm going to Inauguration in two months
Someway I'm going to try my hardest to be in D.C. on Inauguration Day, too. I don't know if you need a ticket to be there or where to get them.

All I know I'll probably need some gloves, a warm coat and a hat.

Jason
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:55 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
At my school today - I was saying good morning to students as they arrived.

One of the Year 2 students stopped next to me, paused - looked me up and down - then said "You like like that guy that got elected." She laughed - and ran on.

Didn't know what to say - but it made me smile thinking a 6 year old had watched Obama become President-elect - and had remembered it the next day.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
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I don't know if you need a ticket to be there or where to get them.
I'm still trying to figure that out, too. You can kick it on the streets for his walk on the street but I don't think you need a ticket unless you're trying to get really close. There are tickets for the grandstands.

Anyway, it was nice not having McCain supporters come in and take their frustration out on me today. I read a lot about the world reaction and I was very heartened to hear some of the stories. Just to have a guy with intellect in the White House would have been good enough for me but it looks like we got the whole package; a student of Reagan, a student of the Constitution, Clinton's charisma, MLK's legacy, and so on.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:35 PM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
i hope this doesn't come off condescending, but i'm very very happy for african americans today. i don't know how else to say that without sounding condescending, i guess. i feel like it's that old "us" and "them" thing again. those of "us" who feel like we hold no remnants of the tradition of discrimination have had no way to prove it and let "them" know that we can move past it as a single community. there's been a culture of distrust, i think, where as individuals we feel like the amorphous masses might not be as interested in equality as we are. this election proved, in a way, that so many of us truly believe in that equality and it's almost like we can all look each other in the eye en masse and say, "well thank god, i'm glad i'm not the only one." i feel hopeful that "we" have managed to let "them" know that we think of each other as fellow americans and fellow human beings with inner qualities first and demographics second.

maybe that's overly optimistic and overly simplistic.

i'm reminded of an interview i saw with chris rock after he'd had his family tree researched by a genealogist. he was amazed to find out that one of his ancestors was elected twice to the south carolina state legislature back when the abolition of slavery was still a new concept, and that this same ancestor had owned land and was financially successful. he said as an african american you always feel like you came from nothing, that there was no power or success preceding you to lift you up as you strive to succeed in your own life. you feel like if you make it, you'll be the first. to learn that there were people in his own family who had been successful, that it's not an anomaly for a black man to make it in america, was an incredible revelation for him. for those african americans who don't have access to their family ancestry i hope they can see themselves in the success of obama, and broaden their vision to see how many black americans have already paved the way as senators, mayors, businessmen/women, etc.

again, maybe this isn't a sentiment that can be expressed by a white woman without coming off as condescending. i don't know how to express it otherwise so i hope it's taken as sincere.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:56 AM
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Re: Obama - perspectives
Well a white man like me is probably no better qualified to judge either, but fwiw, I don't think it's condescending at all. I think you summed up very nicely what lots of people - members of the human race - are feeling. I've no idea who (if any) on here is black but I'd be interested to hear their thoughts too. In fact anyone who isn't white, since that's the real significance too. When he reached through that magic 270, I felt it to be a fantastic symbolic victory for non-whites everywhere, including those close to me. At the risk of sounding mawkish, it felt like we all somehow got a bit closer that night.
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