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Old 08-12-2010, 08:24 AM
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Johann Hari on The slow, whiny death of British Christianity

As I say about every link I post - s'worth a read

He's summed up the whole persecution paranoia to a tee.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:49 AM
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Re: British Christianity
it's mainly because observance is forced and sponsored by the government. no wonder people hate religion in the uk.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:51 PM
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it's mainly because observance is forced and sponsored by the government. no wonder people hate religion in the uk.
Not sure about that.

My guess is that our long term history of religious strife has - over the generations - shaped the British attitude to religion considerably more than anything in the present. In other words, the decline of Christianity is a long and gradual one, rather than an immediate rebellion against present conditions. There are probably also cultural reasons - our generally greater scepticism and disrespect for/ridiculing of authority, and so on.

Despite the undoubted privileges still enjoyed by the Church of England, despite living in a country with an established church headed by our constitutional monarch, the reality is that religious observance is long long way from being "forced" on us by the government as you suggest. Even I an atheist and committed secularist have to admit that, on a day-to-day basis, such 'incursions' barely register. Of course I'm aware that other people will experience them more.

As Blair's former spin doctor said to an American journalist quizzing him about politics and religion in the UK, "Brits just don't do God". British politicians are well advised to avoid it for fear of seeming a bit weird(-er than normal). I could quite easily see an atheist such as our current deputy Prime Minister being elected into No.10. Not so sure about religion and the monarchy, but then that's an issue in itself with a whole load of other baggage.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:34 PM
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Damn, that was good Decks, may stomach is sore from laughing. Thanks.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:29 AM
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Damn, that was good Decks, may stomach is sore from laughing. Thanks.
What?
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:23 AM
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What?
What what?
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Old 08-13-2010, 11:12 AM
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Was just curious which bit you found funny.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:47 PM
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The entire article. Of course, it's a bit of a comedy/tragedy/horror/drama all rolled up into one really. I'm not familiar with the research/poll entities in the U.K. and certainly not which are respected and which have been proved skewered yet still operate and so on and so on.

I don't really put full faith in the results of any of them over here in America either though.

But like I said, that was funny! TGIF, huh? Whachadoin' tonight? Whachadoin???
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:02 AM
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On second thoughts, I can't be bothered

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:51 AM
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any gram of dignity shifted in the scales towards a reasonable balance is always going to be seen as persecution by those with the most power. and onward...
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