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Originally Posted by proedros

i had a member with a 0.03 ratio who tried to convince me that he has helped in other ways

That's me - yes, 0.03 is really bad, but there are reasons like some of the other members have mentioned already. I have a crap connection. It's supposed to be 20/1 Mbit, but in fact it is less than that - it's more like 14/0.6 Mbit. Some of the gigs I've downloaded twice, since I had some gigs on a pc that died.
Also, to get a higher ratio there must be someone demanding those particular gigs at the time you're online. I always turn off my pc when I go to sleep. And I keep most of the gigs (and all other Underworld material) on an external HD. I guess I just don't fit into the 'tracker segment'
I never really found out how to set up a tracker. TheBang, jetpig and others on these boards have helped me setting up the tracker. I did supply the John Peel promo cd and also an old Hamburg gig, which TheBang and jetpig put on the tracker. That's what I mean with 'helping in other ways' - sharing rare stuff, etc. But in your world, ratio is all that matters. And that's cool, I really appreciate that people are making the shows available / downloadable through the tracker.

find it hard to believe that when you have donwloaded 70 GBs and can not find the time to seed back a bit

The right time to seed back is when there is demand / requests - but I rarely check the tracker, sorry.

anyway , i am now at 2.5 ratio , will probably seed until i reach a 5.00 ratio but we need people who download to stay and seed

Yeah, keep us updated on your ratio ... nice, smug attitude

or maybe they are also 'giving back' by seeding close to 0.01

Or through other channels or in other ways. Who knows? You don't, obviously