[dubman]

yeah and anyway whats wrong with squirt guns.
except their inherent grossness...

sarcasmo's point should have been bleedin obvious from the get go considering the longevity of members is more than enough time to budge somewhat on "the issues", but thats... so rare. i know it's dirty and we're above the blog rabble but politics aint dinner table convo for a good reason. the older people get the more entrenched it gets and... agh, it either becomes a headache or a joke. but ok. we're dirty, we're better. fine.

and i was asking for it and i knew i was, just not the multi-thread, page-spanning epic it became.