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Originally Posted by dubman
if they never, ever, ever, EVER cop to their cynical strategizing, then theres still an allowance somewhere that they might be saying what they're doing. yes, its transparent, but i kinda, sorta, oh-god-do-i-wanna believe that he might go there with the intent of assesing it thoughtfully and come back saying something new and workable.
i made up my mind by the time the cali primary rolled around, but, and this is weird, recently i just dont fucking know. it's... too good. i saw a t-shirt for sale using the obama type saying "prepare to be disappointed", the sidebar reading, the sooner we accept that he isnt jesus then we can see that even the most inspiring politician is still a politician."
which is a great response to my sudden reservation about him. maybe it's that one pandering gesture too many. maybe its how he says contradicting statements with ease to differeing crowds. maybe because he's getting comfortable. maybe its the realization that their whole "lets just get a decent guy in office you guys" vibe is just another angle that a couple managers hit on brilliantly...
i dunno....
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I feel the same way (at least as far as I can, being an outsider in this). To some extent it'll be the natural cycle, the transition that takes place in a candidate when they move on from campaigning to the party -> campaigning to the country. But combine that with the reminder that, oh yeah, he IS still a politician, and in order to win, he IS going to have to compromise, dumb down, occasionally contradict, and pander - and I guess lots of his supporters will be feeling similar - and I think ultimately that's a useful thing.
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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout
Yeah. I feel there is a danger in that he is being put on a pedestal as "Saviour of Mankind" in much the same way Blair was in 1997.
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The Messiah! God yeah. The memory of being a 23 year old voting for Blair for the first time with such enthusiasm in 1997, and the subsequent long and painful kick in the guts (admittedly after a relatively good 2 year honeymoon period) remains with me. Politicians have always gone stale, and with the advent of the internet, I can only see that happening a lot quicker than ever. But you're right - absolutely no reason not to vote for him now.