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Old 06-03-2008, 08:05 AM
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Re: Another one o' them smoking ban threads....
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite View Post
It is not "inhumane" or a "stupid analogy" to deny universal health coverage to people who are not behaving in their self-interests when it is realistic and totally reasonable for them to do so. But, obviously, we can not discriminate with universal healthcare:

2. Even if it were passed, in order to not punish the wallet's of people who have taken care of themselves, it would involve equally unconstitutional screening systems and aside from being unconstitutional by deciding who has the right to life, it would entail a bigger government I would not appreciate
Again, a glaring self contradiction. You can't call it humane to enforce a criteria for discrimination based on your own personal definition of what is acting in one's self-interest and inhumane if a government program did the same thing.

Anyway, we're still having the problem of these pedestrian notions of what is acting in one's self interest and accountability. I mean sorry to add to the dog pile, but fuck, mate. Let's start off by deciding how much medical care expenses are dealt out because of environment versus genetic dispositions. And of the subset caused by environment how much is spent because of pollution, asbestos, and lead cookery, and how much is actually caused by one's own choices. And of that subset, how much of those choices could be legally deemed to be reasonably willfully self destructive? Seriously, lets quantify this.
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