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Originally Posted by Sarcasmo
And in order to monitor people that closely, you'd need, oh, I dunno, A FUCKING HUGE GODDAMNED GOVERNMENT!
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i've been thinking that from the start.
i feel like there are huge holes in our friend's argument. he's arguing constitutionality and advocating smaller government, and then suggesting that we screen people according to the nature and cause of their health care needs and then judge them worthy of coverage. does not compute.
if you don't want to be the "bad guy," IsiliRunite, participate in the conversation. you've done nothing to address any of the questions posed. i've asked a number of times whether you think the child of a rich man deserves a better chance than the child of a poor man. so how's about it? do you think it's okay for people do die of treatable conditions simply because they can't afford coverage? i want an answer to that. you make yourself the "bad guy" when you refuse to address the simple ethical dilemma that is a necessary component of many of our opinions on the subject.
i'm willing to accept any answer here, such as, "no it's not right, but we all have to shuffle off this mortal coil sometime." or, "no one deserves health, it's not a basic human right." ANYTHING. hell, i can't even argue with you if you don't regard health as a basic human right. i can disagree but i can't empirically disprove your perspective.
you're hiding behind constitutionality instead of addressing what is, for everyone else, a moral debate. and you're hiding behind philosophical naval-gazing about the nature of humanity and the evolution of compassion. i think we can all agree that the naval-gazing "solution" you offered would be a wonderful world indeed, but since we all live in the world TODAY at this specific point in evolution, it's not too much to ask that you come out from your hiding place and engage in a real world discussion.
so far you've taken a position that seems to be entirely about not wanting anyone else to get their grubby mitts on your money;. if you don't want to be viewed as something of a selfish "bad guy" it's up to you to correct the impression you've created. no one is responsible for what you've said in this thread but you.