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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
If you were to run through your house and clip your living-room table, consequently making the vase sitting no that table fall and shatter, is your brother the one who gets hit with the belt?
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What a stupid analogy.
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
I'm losing a father to cigarettes, and I have already lost a mother to the habit, but for me to sit around and act like it is okay for the rest of you to pay for their mistakes in any way is absurd. What happened to accountability?
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Accountability is one thing - but you've actually been saying that someone getting exercise through sports should be left out in the cold because they're somehow being irresponsible and taking part in "risky" activities. Driving a car is a risky activity too....should anyone who gets in a car accident have to pay for their medical bills out of pocket? If not, then WHY not?
And realistically, exercise in general seems like it would fall under your "risky" activity label. I know a few people who have hurt themselves during weight training in the gym - weight training being a necessary part of a healthy gym routine. So should they be left to fend for themselves too? If not, then WHY not? And if so, then what in the world should people do for exercise? Not getting ANY exercise is far worse for your health than risking injury through sports and gym workouts, so what would you have people do?
You're labeling of "risky" or "stupid" activities are ridiculously thoughtless.
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
and you guys are gonna come at me with an argument about some little boy who couldn't get health care coverage for his minor dental cavity and ended up dying.
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Clearly, you're not processing what people here are saying.
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
That sucks. That is awful, and should have never happened. Maybe if we rehumanized ourselves into compassionate, considerate beings instead of isolated individuals.
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Didn't you just say that you're an "isolationist"? So which is it? Should we break out of being isolated, or should we be isolationists?
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Universal healthcare is a programme that reroutes HOW humans do not act humanely, forcing their actions to become humane and potentially punishing those who act perfectly humanely. Why not make our actions more humane in the first place? That is something that would address more worldly concerns than just healthcare. I guess its just too easy to blame some white corporation CEO for the problems in the world than looking inward and taking some responsibility for why the world is not perfect.
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How can you claim that you're taking a humane stance when your ideas would leave a huge portion of the population to suffer and die because you deem them to be "retards"?
I'm a centerist who sees value in many liberal, as well as conservative ideas, but your stance is just ridiculous.