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Originally Posted by dubman
point3: wow. sea change is probably one of the worst albums i've ever heard and as decent as guero is, it's the product of a hangover i dont think he'll ever freak out of.
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Holy crap, Sea Change is probably the best album I've ever heard. Are you sure you were listening to that album?? And although I think we must just have insanely different sensibilities towards music, I really think you outta give it one more spin.
All of that aside -- I don't think Nigel could've done anything remarkable with this NIN album. Nigel cares infinately about head space and airieness whereas pretty much all of NIN's albums past PHM have been very clausterphobic works with crushed dynamics. Not that this is a bad thing per se, but I really think that Nigel would have no idea of what to do with Trent's stuff.
EDIT: Oh yea, my thoughts...
I'm not liking this album very much. I agree with the sentiments expressed already about the production, and it could be that I'm just jaded from tinkering around with beats and what-not myself, but hardly anything on this album sounds like a completed thought. I think that if one aspires to be an electronic musician, one has to be keenly aware that what you accomplish is going to be based off of the production of your album. Not your rhythm, not your melody, but what you make those noises do in space. And I'm listening to these beats and they all sound locked in a box. They sound like one part Ableton Live, one part Battery and five parts laziness. And it's really frustrating, especially when it rubs up against more dedicated passages in this album. God Given is a good example here -- flat and dry lyrics, an uninspired drum beat that doesn't do anything but add elements, and when the chorus comes in and the mix gets huge, it almost feels like an afterthought. And then the chorus finishes and the track retreats back into its box. Sorry Trent, but distortion does not a beat make. Your job isn't done with your vocals after you lay your take. And thanks for the same guitar treatment that you've been giving me for the past 15 years, I didn't want a change...
EDIT: And as I'm reviewing my post, "Greater Good" is playing and for fuck's sakes, I want to take this stupid kalimba and shove it up his ass.
I guess I'm just at the point that if I want to listen raw and cerrated productions, I want it to punch me in my fucking mouth. And that's the problem here -- the Trent that was imprinted upon me was this psychotic guy with over the top productions, a bastion of youthful angst that hit you like a Mack truck and left you gripping your chest. And I'll still hold out for a rebound, but all indications tell me that this Trent that I came to know and love is gone, and gone for good.