[BrotherLovesDub]

i like the bare bones, stripped down vibe of dubstep. grime is largely cluttered and rougher in general than dubstep, in my opinion. i will look for those Dj Target cuts. any sites offering individual tracks to download?

like Memories of the Future, the biggest problem i have with grime is pointless, grating vocals. i mentioned Def Jux cuz that style reminds me of what's plaguing grime vocals. self important, forced deliveries that struggle to make sense and ride the riddem. you think Talib Kweli is wordy and clunky? these grime mc's make Talib sound like shakespear. if there's a grime track with amazing lyrics, i've yet to hear it. grime lyrics seem to be mostly shouted, packed with too many lines and not very poetic or intelligent. could be that i'm not british, though i generally love thick british accents in music, but listening to hours of Logan Sama shows has left me with the perception that there is not a single Grime MC who is intelligent, with a catchy flow and a way with words.

please prove me wrong. i do enjoy the backing tracks in grime but would dearly love to hear somethign that wasn't ignorant and shouty. wiley has come close, and i've listened to his stuff quite a bit, but i'd like to hear others.