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Originally Posted by dubman
what you're doing, is by forcibly accepting all and trying to understand and adapt to everyone character, is encouraging stultifying, non-critical conversation that repress things like heatedness and your interpretation of "negative vibes" simply for what? someone's ego? because dirty is such a safe haven that peoples bad argument skills shouldnt be pointed out and their ignorance ignored? this forum isnt going to shit because a few people viciously argue about something. it goes to shit when no one here has a reason past unfocused anger or bleeding positivity. the glue you're talking about is a fairly loose one and it implies that just because you like underworld that you're a voice worth hearing around here. i cant think of many members that contradict that (well, i can, but this isnt the place) but the logic is flawed, not to mention self-insulating.
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So what you are effectively saying is that the people who cannot argue with the same intellectual capacities as you have no voice here, without risking ridicule from the elite few who happen to have an excellent education and above-average argument skills? Jesus, this is a music forum, not the College debating union. It is not about form, it is about substance. If one constantly ignores the substance to criticise the form from ones elitist ivory tower, it alienates the 95% of the population who do not have the same debating skills as you, and they stop posting for fear of being remonstrated with for not being intellectually up-to-the-mark.
That is what stultifies discussion. Self-styled, snug intellectuals with their "holier than thou", self-mastubatory rhetoric and critique of those less eloquent than they. There is a huge difference between education and intelligence.
Tell me, would you use the same language talking to the guy in McDonalds, and mock him if he replied with weak argumentative skills? Or would you just not engage in conversation with him in the first place because he is not worthy?
There is a big world out there - not everyone is as fortunate as you or I to have had the educational opportunities we have. Not everyone is fortunate enought to have the intellectual capacity we have. Do we therefore disregard anything they have to say and mock them when they say it? Not I, sir. Not I.
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